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Sure, watching the battery SoC does not do anything to change the truck itself, but it can absolutely let you change your driving habits to maximize fuel efficiency.

If you keep it on cruise control for your entire drive then it's not going to do anything (and there's nothing wrong with that). But with more data, you can plan your routes and driving habits differently, which some people like to do.

I also wish there was a cheaper alternative just to get the battery info, but I'm looking into an SGIII as well.
Thanks for the input. You have spelled it out better than I could! It is just more data to help me get the most out of this awesome little truck.
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If you believe someone is really getting 800 miles out of a tank under normal and varied driving conditions, well….
Normal, varied, busy, congested San Francisco and surrounding Bay Area cites, yes. Quite do-able; repeatedly, and several owners have done this. I'm one of several.

Keep in mind "winter" here is 40°F and summer is about 80°F with low humidity. You can get away without heating or air-conditioning, if you choose, which is 10% to 25% of your gasoline use, depending on severity of weather. My home does not even have an air conditioner.

I understand 800 miles per tank in Indiana or Michigan is just short of impossible. YOU should understand 800 miles is not too difficult in mild weather. I don't live where you live.

Don't be so quick to judge.

Knowing battery SOC is an advantage, a significant advantage in stop n go conditions. In steady state, highway over 55 mph; sure, not much advantage then.

Key to higher MPG in any condition is keeping the Battery SOC lower, so there is always room to charge. If you are not driving in EV much, or at all, you are driving around with a "full" battery. A rarely used "full" battery is nearly useless to you. Literally dead weight. (And at steady high speeds it is dead weight much of the time, but is charged and ready to give you that boost on a hill or that boost of acceleration for passing.)

You could call the hybrids "Battery Boosted" compared to EcoBoost.
 
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Normal, varied, busy, congested San Francisco and surrounding Bay Area cites, yes. Quite do-able; repeatedly, and several owners have done this. I'm one of several.

Keep in mind "winter" here is 40°F and summer is about 80°F with low humidity. You can get away without heating or air-conditioning, if you choose, which is 10% to 25% of your gasoline use, depending on severity of weather. My home does not even have an air conditioner.

I understand 800 miles per tank in Indiana or Michigan is just short of impossible. YOU should understand 800 miles is not too difficult in mild weather. I don't live where you live.

Don't be so quick to judge.

Knowing battery SOC is an advantage, a significant advantage in stop n go conditions. In steady state, highway over 55 mph; sure, not much advantage then.

Key to higher MPG in any condition is keeping the Battery SOC lower, so there is always room to charge. If you are not driving in EV much, or at all, you are driving around with a "full" battery. A rarely used "full" battery is nearly useless to you. Literally dead weight. (And at steady high speeds it is dead weight much of the time, but is charged and ready to give you that boost on a hill or that boost of acceleration for passing.)

You could call the hybrids "Battery Boosted" compared to EcoBoost.
Im not judging..Not my thing. I just know BS when I see it..You have to be careful when you go on and on about stuff and assume your audience are total idiots. I just spent 3 months in the LA area with family. I get it. I also know how to max out the tank. 800 is bs..So stop.
 

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I’d like to see a photo of someone’s MPG screen after fill up indicating 800 miles to empty..
 

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Im not judging..Not my thing. I just know BS when I see it..You have to be careful when you go on and on about stuff and assume your audience are total idiots. I just spent 3 months in the LA area with family. I get it. I also know how to max out the tank. 800 is bs..So stop.
You love trolling.
You stand corrected and will be ignored from this point forward.
Ford Maverick Monitoring Hybrid Battery State-Of-Charge F6EA6E45-B559-462E-B744-7EE90F6A91C4

In good, but less than ideal conditions.
770 miles actually traveled with a gallon or more reserve still in the tank. Looks like 800 miles to me any everyone else.
5 weeks of daily commutes in Bay Area.
Nothing "unusual". Maybe that's unusual for you, but typical for me.
Utilizing EV as much as possible is a key factor. City, easy. Highway, not so much. Monitoring battery SOC shows you how and when you can utilize EV more. But you do you. How much you spend at the pump doesn't affect how much (or little) I spend at the pump.

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You love trolling.
You stand corrected and will be ignored from this point forward.
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In good, but less than ideal conditions.
770 miles actually traveled with a gallon or more reserve still in the tank. Looks like 800 miles to me any everyone else.
5 weeks of daily commutes in Bay Area.
Nothing "unusual". Maybe that's unusual for you, but typical for me.
Utilizing EV as much as possible is a key factor. City, easy. Highway, not so much. Monitoring battery SOC shows you how and when you can utilize EV more. But you do you. How much you spend at the pump doesn't affect how much (or little) I spend at the pump.

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Notice I say "up to 800 miles per tank".
No where am I saying this is what everyone could or should be getting.

Only "one" tank did I go 770.4 with reserve left in the tank. But 700+ is easy peazy in MY climate and MY conditions.

YMMV
 
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I think this is a good analogy.

A)
I'm going to give you an unlimited amount of money. You never know when it is going to come. You can never have more than $100 in your possession at any time. You can buy stuff whenever you want, but you won't know how much things cost, and you won't know how much change you have in your pocket.

B)
I'm going to give you an unlimited amount of money. You can never have more than $100 in your pocket, but you know when the money will arrive. You can buy stuff whenever you want and you will know how much everything costs. You will have a balance sheet and will always know how much change is left in your pocket.

Do you prefer A or B?

Substitute battery charge for money and change.

A is driving with no ScanGauge.

B is driving with a ScanGauge.

A is driving to get "EPA" rated MPG.

B facilitates driving to beat EPA MPG.

If you knew when the money was coming and you knew how much everything costs, wouldn't you optimize to spend every cent without ever running out before next payday?

Ford's Maverick does not do this "automatically". It is set up to a "happy middle ground" that most drivers are content with. And sure; going from a 20 MPG truck to a 40 MPG one is pretty amazing. But with limited hardware (IE ScanGauge) and no actual truck mods, this can be a 50 MPG truck. And then some in ideal conditions.

Note: the ScanGauge (or equivalent) tunes the driver, not the engine.

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I think this is a good analogy.

A)
I'm going to give you an unlimited amount of money. You never know when it is going to come. You can never have more than $100 in your possession at any time. You can buy stuff whenever you want, but you won't know how much things cost, and you won't know how much change you have in your pocket.

B)
I'm going to give you an unlimited amount of money. You can never have more than $100 in your pocket, but you know when the money will arrive. You can buy stuff whenever you want and you will know how much everything costs. You will have a balance sheet and will always know how much change is left in your pocket.

Do you prefer A or B?

Substitute battery charge for money and change.

A is driving with no ScanGauge.

B is driving with a ScanGauge.

A is driving to get "EPA" rated MPG.

B facilitates driving to beat EPA MPG.

If you knew when the money was coming and you knew how much everything costs, wouldn't you optimize to spend every cent without ever running out before next payday?

Ford's Maverick does not do this "automatically". It is set up to a "happy middle ground" that most drivers are content with. And sure; going from a 20 MPG truck to a 40 MPG one is pretty amazing. But with limited hardware (IE ScanGauge) and no actual truck mods, this can be a 50 MPG truck. And then some in ideal conditions.

Note: the ScanGauge (or equivalent) tunes the driver, not the engine.

HTH
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“Scan gauge tunes the driver”. Yer killin me with that one..
 

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I love how they doubt you, and instant smackdown with the 700+ reading on the dash.

You still using slippery mode as the default?

edit: Added pic of my work trip I did the other day.

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I love how they doubt you, and instant smackdown with the 700+ reading on the dash.

You still using slippery mode as the default?

edit: Added pic of my work trip I did the other day.

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cant wait for spring and warmer weather to get these impressive mileage numbers.. I can barely get 500 miles per tank in these cold windy winter temps. Mostly highway.
 

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cant wait for spring and warmer weather to get these impressive mileage numbers.. I can barely get 500 miles per tank in these cold windy winter temps. Mostly highway.
I creep between 30-40 on highway. I think the main mpg hit is the truck needing to initially warm up to operating temps. I don't think it's too bad once it's already warmed.
 

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Here are the codes to program x-gauges on a scan gauge 2 for the Maverick:
We do have a list of codes that have worked for a Maverick Hybrid. Please give them a try. If you have any questions please let us know.



Description​
TXD​
RXF​
RXD​
MTH​
NAME​
Notes​
Battery Pack State of Charge (%)​
07E4224420​
C46245443620​
3010​
000100050000​
SOC​
4.22+ Required​
Positive Leakage Voltage (Volts)​
07E4224422​
C46245443622​
3010​
0001000A0000​
PLV​
4.22+ Required​
Negative Leakage Voltage (Volts)​
07E4224408​
C46245443608​
3010​
0001000A0000​
NLV​
4.22+ Required​
Contactor Voltage Negative (Volts)​
07E422440A​
C4624544360A​
3010​
000100010000​
CVN​
4.22+ Required​
Maximum Temperature Range (Degrees Fahrenheit)​
07E4224404​
C46205443604​
3008​
00090005FFC6​
MAX​
4.22+ Required​
Minimum Temperature Range (Degrees Fahrenheit)​
07E4224404​
C46205443604​
3808​
00090005FFC6​
MIN​
4.22+ Required​
Temprature Range (Degrees Fahrenheit)​
07E4224404​
C46205443604​
4008​
00090005FFC6​
RNG​
4.22+ Required​
Average Temperature Range (Degrees Fahrenheit)​
07E4224404​
C46205443604​
4808​
00090005FFC6​
ATR​
4.22+ Required​
Hybrid Battery Current (Amps)​
07E4224462​
C46245443662​
3010​
000100010000​
HBC​
4.22+ Required​
Hybrid Battery Pack Voltage (Volts)​
07E4224468​
C46205443668​
3010​
000100010000​
HBV​
4.22+ Required​
Charge Power Limit (kW)​
07E4224438​
C46245443638​
3008​
001900010000​
CPL​
4.22+ Required​
Hybrid Battery Variation in State of Charge Between Battery Modules (%)​
07E42244DA​
C462454436DA​
3010​
000100050000​
BCD​
4.22+ Required​
Hybrid Battery Variation In Voltage Between Battery Modules (Volts)​
07E42244FA​
C462454436FA​
3010​
0001000A0000​
BVD​
4.22+ Required​
Hybrid Battery Minimum Battery Module Voltage (Volts)​
07E4224404​
C46245443604​
3010​
0001000A0000​
MBV​
4.22+ Required​
Hybrid Battery Average Battery Module Voltage (Volts)​
07E4224424​
C46245443624​
3010​
0001000A0000​
ABV​
4.22+ Required​
Hybrid EV Battery Coolant Inlet Temperature (Degrees Fahrenheit)​
07E422440E​
C4620544360E​
3008​
00090005FFD8​
CIT​
4.22+ Required​
Minimum Module Temperature (Degrees Fahrenheit)​
07E4227D01​
C462057D3601​
3008​
00090005FFC6​
MMT​
4.22+ Required​
Delta Module Temperature (Degrees Fahrenheit)​
07E4227D21​
C462057D3621​
3008​
00090005FFC6​
DMT​
4.22+ Required​
 

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Here are the codes to program x-gauges on a scan gauge 2 for the Maverick:
We do have a list of codes that have worked for a Maverick Hybrid. Please give them a try. If you have any questions please let us know.



Description​
TXD​
RXF​
RXD​
MTH​
NAME​
Notes​
Battery Pack State of Charge (%)​
07E4224420​
C46245443620​
3010​
000100050000​
SOC​
4.22+ Required​
Positive Leakage Voltage (Volts)​
07E4224422​
C46245443622​
3010​
0001000A0000​
PLV​
4.22+ Required​
Negative Leakage Voltage (Volts)​
07E4224408​
C46245443608​
3010​
0001000A0000​
NLV​
4.22+ Required​
Contactor Voltage Negative (Volts)​
07E422440A​
C4624544360A​
3010​
000100010000​
CVN​
4.22+ Required​
Maximum Temperature Range (Degrees Fahrenheit)​
07E4224404​
C46205443604​
3008​
00090005FFC6​
MAX​
4.22+ Required​
Minimum Temperature Range (Degrees Fahrenheit)​
07E4224404​
C46205443604​
3808​
00090005FFC6​
MIN​
4.22+ Required​
Temprature Range (Degrees Fahrenheit)​
07E4224404​
C46205443604​
4008​
00090005FFC6​
RNG​
4.22+ Required​
Average Temperature Range (Degrees Fahrenheit)​
07E4224404​
C46205443604​
4808​
00090005FFC6​
ATR​
4.22+ Required​
Hybrid Battery Current (Amps)​
07E4224462​
C46245443662​
3010​
000100010000​
HBC​
4.22+ Required​
Hybrid Battery Pack Voltage (Volts)​
07E4224468​
C46205443668​
3010​
000100010000​
HBV​
4.22+ Required​
Charge Power Limit (kW)​
07E4224438​
C46245443638​
3008​
001900010000​
CPL​
4.22+ Required​
Hybrid Battery Variation in State of Charge Between Battery Modules (%)​
07E42244DA​
C462454436DA​
3010​
000100050000​
BCD​
4.22+ Required​
Hybrid Battery Variation In Voltage Between Battery Modules (Volts)​
07E42244FA​
C462454436FA​
3010​
0001000A0000​
BVD​
4.22+ Required​
Hybrid Battery Minimum Battery Module Voltage (Volts)​
07E4224404​
C46245443604​
3010​
0001000A0000​
MBV​
4.22+ Required​
Hybrid Battery Average Battery Module Voltage (Volts)​
07E4224424​
C46245443624​
3010​
0001000A0000​
ABV​
4.22+ Required​
Hybrid EV Battery Coolant Inlet Temperature (Degrees Fahrenheit)​
07E422440E​
C4620544360E​
3008​
00090005FFD8​
CIT​
4.22+ Required​
Minimum Module Temperature (Degrees Fahrenheit)​
07E4227D01​
C462057D3601​
3008​
00090005FFC6​
MMT​
4.22+ Required​
Delta Module Temperature (Degrees Fahrenheit)​
07E4227D21​
C462057D3621​
3008​
00090005FFC6​
DMT​
4.22+ Required​
Most of those automatically were found via scan procedure in the SGIII. I'd love to have motor/generator speed and motor/generator temperature. Let us know if those are figured out.
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