Is the XL base enough?

[Fcnrwy]

Base enough?

By "Todays" standards, it is..
My 2022 XL's is really no different than my past three Rangers.(1985/1994/2008).
Except for the Power Windows, Power Locks, Backup Camera and Cloth seats..

And If FORD still made the Rangers' that SIZE.. I will be owning one than..

Jerry

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[Ozarkbeard]

Simply removing a feature and part would actually help speed up the assembly process and would skip the R&D. Removing cruise control is a good example.

Not really.

All Mavericks have cruise in the computer. There aren't a bunch of mechanical or wiring additions, like there used to be. All that's needed is a cheap-ass cruise switch cluster in the steering wheel and software changes. By including it in every trim level, they can stock a smaller variety of steering wheel controls, which is likely cheaper for them.

 

[TwoTone]

I believe it would sell enough of them that they could produce a small number.

You really need to do a little more research on manufacturing- not how that works.
The fewer you make, the more you have to charge.

 

[ejouie]

Not really.

All Mavericks have cruise in the computer. There aren't a bunch of mechanical or wiring additions, like there used to be. All that's needed is a cheap-ass cruise switch cluster in the steering wheel and software changes. By including it in every trim level, they can stock a smaller variety of steering wheel controls, which is likely cheaper for them.

OK. Proven incorrect about cruise control because that is closer to replacing than it is removing.

 

[FamousAmos]

I love my XL maverick. But it does not have everything I wanted. I actually would have liked a more strip down new base model truck. And as msrp increases, I would like to see the base XL loose some features rather than continue to climb in price. Or maybe add an additional trim to replace that old lower price. Call it “base”. To me it would be historical and dope to have a base model trim called “base”.

This trim could have roll up windows. I for one, would love to have those. Make the side mirrors manual. Get rid of the gimmicky drive modes that rarely get used by anyone. Remove cruise control and the brake hold. For this trim, keep the smaller screen for the government mandated back up camera. Rather than having the larger version the 2025s get. Offer it in only white or black. Remove the steel wheel ford caps. How much would that reduce the price?

Can you even make a vehicle like that these days? That might be too economical.

The XL is enough vehicle ONLY if you are like I am. I don't use the TV screen on the dash except to look at the time. OTOH, there is my brother-in-law who we call "Gadget Man," who wants every dumb-ass (my opinion) option you can put on a car. I think he paid $45-50K for a Honda CRV 10 years ago, and it STILL didn't have enough doodads for him. (It takes 3 remotes to watch his living room TV.)

So, who are you? Simple Simon or Gadget Man?

 

[petemitchelltomcat]

I love my XL maverick. But it does not have everything I wanted. I actually would have liked a more strip down new base model truck. And as msrp increases, I would like to see the base XL loose some features rather than continue to climb in price. Or maybe add an additional trim to replace that old lower price. Call it “base”. To me it would be historical and dope to have a base model trim called “base”.

This trim could have roll up windows. I for one, would love to have those. Make the side mirrors manual. Get rid of the gimmicky drive modes that rarely get used by anyone. Remove cruise control and the brake hold. For this trim, keep the smaller screen for the government mandated back up camera. Rather than having the larger version the 2025s get. Offer it in only white or black. Remove the steel wheel ford caps. How much would that reduce the price?

Can you even make a vehicle like that these days? That might be too economical.

My only request from Ford would be to include ALL the Co-pilot 360 features on every trim level, including adaptive cruise, traffic recognition, etc. It seems to me it would cost more to limit the features (and possible law suits) than it would to include them with a slight price increase.

 

[PlantMan]

I've always been a bare-bones XL work truck kind of guy, whether it was an F-150, F-250, or F-350. When I bought my current F-250 XL work truck (crew cab, long bed, 4WD) my wife pleaded with me to just go ahead and get power windows and door locks. I followed her advice and got a truck with those and power rear view mirrors as well. Those 3 additions and power tailgate lock have been well worth it. I still got the base AM/FM/AUX radio and no backup camera. If they had a cheap option for a backup camera display, I'd have sprung for it.
Totally glad my 22 Maverick had the power options built in. Being a 22 it doesn't have cruise control and someday I'll get around to installing the switches I bought. I don't do any highway driving where cruise would be useful, so I don't really miss it. Thankfully the reach over to the passenger side rear view mirror is not bad, so manually adjusting it is OK for me.

 

[Blinky]

The auto manufacturers have been open about why they dont always build what people want. What people want does not equate to what people actually buy. Great example is the jeep gladiator. By end of year 1 of production, you could already get massive end of year discounts on them. Because they were not selling. But everyone said they wanted one. Guess money comes to play in reality of things.

The F150 is a great example they can still make options that dont sell. They still offer long beds even though barely anyone wants them. They will still make single cabs even though nobody wants them. But some people do. And its enough of demand that Ford continues to make money from producing those options as long as they remain on a mass selling platform. And the maverick is a mass selling platform.

Ford doesn't give a flying banana about what "people" want. Ford cares about what fleet managers want and fleet managers apparently want single cab, long box F-150s. I see those basic work trucks all the time in the industrial area where I work, on construction sites and at bulk building material distributors.

If fleet managers suddenly become interested in horrible little stripper Mavericks with no power options then Ford will make them available, at least through fleet dealerships.

 

[TwoTone]

Ford doesn't give a flying banana about what "people" want.

Oh they do, the problem is when 'the people' is a group of 10.

I'm member of one those groups, prefer manual, I'm just self-aware enough to know that my group isn't big enough to make it worth it for manufacturers.

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