From Tesla Model S to Maverick XLT Hybrid AWD

[MclovinGarage]

Welcome the MTC., from a fellow Maverick owner up HWY 99 a mile north. Love the new color of your new ride. RE: wait time, I had a 18 month wait for my 2024. Just saying.

Man, you were dedicated and I admire that. I was willing to wait until this one popped up with the options I had ordered. It was at a dealership I trusted and have a relationship with so it was a no brainer. One of the few dealerships in our area that are not high pressure and didn't try to upsell me on every warranty item they can think of. Plus gave me a more than fair trade value on my trade in. All in all I am very pleased with my purchase. Looking forward to putting many trouble free miles on it.

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[escapePCF]

There are loads of inexpensive accessories available for the Maverick. As an example Mabett/Maxina makes a trashcan with 2 cup hders that attach to the rear center console for your son's.

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[Brent@ANParts]

Congrats on the new truck! 40 MPG is pretty amazing for an all-wheel drive truck. When I get my Maverick I'm 100% going for the hybrid AWD model.

 

[Prickly Pear]

I too have range anxiety - I can't get much over 600 miles without having to stop and put 13 gallons into the tank

 

[Propane Burning Man]

I’ve been in a model S for 4 years and 100k miles. I take it on road trips from LA to my parents in Coos Bay. That’s way more rural than Corvallis, where you’re right on the I-5. I’ve never been stranded. I never have range anxiety. It’s just a learning curve for a new technology. Ever run your car out of gas? Yep, but that was in your 20’s and you’re never done it since, right? There’s a Tesla supercharger every 60 miles or less from san Diego to Bellingham. I’ve never once had a problem of not being able to find a place to recharge. As far of convenience of refueling, I can do LA to Coos Bay in 13 hours in a gas car going non stop, with no breaks longer than what it takes to fill with gas. In my Tesla it takes 15 hours, which means I get leisurely breaks where I get food at a sit down restaurant and can take longer than 30 seconds to pee.

The flip side is that I never have to go to gas stations during the 48 weeks a year that I’m commuting back and forth to work.

Gas car ownership = 16 hours per year at gas stations. (5 minute fuel stop, 10 minutes from freeway exit to freeway onramp, twice a week, 48 weeks a year = 960 minutes)

Tesla ownership = 4 hours a year at charging stations to visit my parents. On my
Other trips, I take my Maverick, but that’s because I’m towing a trailer or taking it off-road to places a 4wd sedan can’t get to.

Again, it’s a Learning curve. If you can wrap your head around the charging infrastructure, it works just fine.

What is the cost to drive to Coos Bay and back recharging at a Supercharger vs. gasoline?

 

[Phimosis]

What is the cost to drive to Coos Bay and back recharging at a Supercharger vs. gasoline?

842 miles each direction, 100 miles local driving = 1,792 miles. Cost was $241 in supercharging for 660 kw. Simple math shows .368 kWh/mi, which is a lot. Because I was doing 80-85 mph the whole way. At a model S at 65 mph uses about .320 kWh/mi.

If you compared that to a similar sized BMW 530i, which is rated at 35 mpg -at the speed limit- it would take 51.2 gallons of gas. Cali gas is around $4.80, where Oregon gas is $4.20, with most of the miles in Cali, so let’s say $4.50 per gallon. That would be $230. So basically the same price for supercharging vs gas.

My alternative would be to take my Maverick ecoboost with 255/65/17 AT4w’s and 2” lift. At 80 mph it gets 19-20 mpg. It would cost $403 for the same trip.

I drive 25-28k miles/year for work, so supercharger miles are only
About 6% of my annual driving. The rest of the miles are powered by my solar panels and don’t cost me anything.

 

[StephenG]

I understand the range anxiety issue. My wife drives an electric car (not Tesla) which fits her in town driving quite nicely. For a road trip, however, not so much. Not being a Tesla and thus not having access to Tesla's charging network makes it even more of a problem. When trying to plan a trip form SoCal to Phoenix I found a limited number of charger stations and many of them were listed as out of order. Bottom line is she won't be driving her electric to Phoenix.

I had a Chevy Colorado we used to tow a small camper trailer but had sold the trailer a couple of years ago. Wife was not comfortable driving the Colorado with a cap on it (limited visibility). I traded in the Colorado for a Maverick XLT Hybrid. Wife is comfortable driving it so no problems with her taking it to Phoenix and it gets done whatever I need to do done. Added bonus is with one car full electric and one hybrid I have had two months where my gas bill was zero.

 

[jcofthewest]

Welcome to the club! I have the same features. Agreed, these trucks are so useful and utility orientated. No wasted space. Love em!

"No wasted space" for sure! I didn't know that front door pocket was so deep behind the big bottle holder, anything hard would slide down but a rag will stay quite nicely. I just discovered yesterday, (3wks in) the nice little space below the back seat (next to, not under).

 

[jcofthewest]

I’ve been in a model S for 4 years and 100k miles. I take it on road trips from LA to my parents in Coos Bay. That’s way more rural than Corvallis, where you’re right on the I-5. I’ve never been stranded. I never have range anxiety. It’s just a learning curve for a new technology. Ever run your car out of gas? Yep, but that was in your 20’s and you’re never done it since, right? There’s a Tesla supercharger every 60 miles or less from san Diego to Bellingham. I’ve never once had a problem of not being able to find a place to recharge. As far of convenience of refueling, I can do LA to Coos Bay in 13 hours in a gas car going non stop, with no breaks longer than what it takes to fill with gas. In my Tesla it takes 15 hours, which means I get leisurely breaks where I get food at a sit down restaurant and can take longer than 30 seconds to pee.

The flip side is that I never have to go to gas stations during the 48 weeks a year that I’m commuting back and forth to work.

Gas car ownership = 16 hours per year at gas stations. (5 minute fuel stop, 10 minutes from freeway exit to freeway onramp, twice a week, 48 weeks a year = 960 minutes)

Tesla ownership = 4 hours a year at charging stations to visit my parents. On my
Other trips, I take my Maverick, but that’s because I’m towing a trailer or taking it off-road to places a 4wd sedan can’t get to.

Again, it’s a Learning curve. If you can wrap your head around the charging infrastructure, it works just fine.

On the "flip side" part of your reply, did you ever do a cost/benefit calculation of your home electric bill? I'm not pickin a fight, just genuinely curious if KW/hr is cheaper than $/gal/mile. I can see that not having to do the weekly or monthly fill-up would have some appeal.

 

[jcofthewest]

842 miles each direction, 100 miles local driving = 1,792 miles. Cost was $241 in supercharging for 660 kw. Simple math shows .368 kWh/mi, which is a lot. Because I was doing 80-85 mph the whole way. At a model S at 65 mph uses about .320 kWh/mi.

If you compared that to a similar sized BMW 530i, which is rated at 35 mpg -at the speed limit- it would take 51.2 gallons of gas. Cali gas is around $4.80, where Oregon gas is $4.20, with most of the miles in Cali, so let’s say $4.50 per gallon. That would be $230. So basically the same price for supercharging vs gas.

My alternative would be to take my Maverick ecoboost with 255/65/17 AT4w’s and 2” lift. At 80 mph it gets 19-20 mpg. It would cost $403 for the same trip.

I drive 25-28k miles/year for work, so supercharger miles are only
About 6% of my annual driving. The rest of the miles are powered by my solar panels and don’t cost me anything.

Ignore my last post. It seems you are doing quite well.

 

[StephenG]

Have not done a cost analysis on my Maverick but on the electric it costs me about $15 in electricity per week to charge it vs. $50 in gas. I call that a win.

 

[Oscarbaron]

What? The rolling trash can doesn't fit the bill for you? Speaking of the trash can on wheels I was stopped at a red light next to one recently and there was rust specks all over it.

Chances are it was probably rail dust on it, very common and most noticeable on white cars. It comes off with right chemicals or elbow grease with compound. It is in our environment and sticks to cars.

 

[Phimosis]

On the "flip side" part of your reply, did you ever do a cost/benefit calculation of your home electric bill? I'm not pickin a fight, just genuinely curious if KW/hr is cheaper than $/gal/mile. I can see that not having to do the weekly or monthly fill-up would have some appeal.

Last year I produced 21,000 kWh and I used 18,000 kWh. The power company paid me $700 for the excess electricity generation, so my power bill is literally $0 per month, including monthly fees and taxes.

Before having solar panels, but using an EV for 2,400 miles per month, my summer time power bills would be up to $530 / month and winter bills would be around $250 per month. With annual total power bill of $4,300 (in 2022 prices).

To calculate the cost analysis of electric vs gasoline, here’s the easy rule: 10 kWh will get an EV as far as 1 gallon of gas. I know this from calculating the mpge vs mpg of dozens of EV’s. But let me show you a prime example: the F-150 vs the the F-150 lightning.

So a crew cab, 4wd, 2.7 non-hybrid F-150 uses 4.8 gallons of gas per 100 miles and an F-150 lightning uses 48 kWh per 100 miles. This 10 kWh = 1 gallon rule holds pretty much across all vehicles where they have an BEV version and a straight gas version of the same car.

So the question of which is more expensive, gas or electric? Well, look at your local utility bill and your local pump price. Where I live in SoCal. The night time EV specific rate plan is $0.30 per kWh, similar to $3 per gallon. And the pump price is $4.89 / gallon (card) for 87 octane.

When I purchased solar panels in 2022, electricity was $0.21 per kwh and gasoline was $4.50 per gallon.

This ratio tends to hold up all across the country. So in places where you find $2.50 gasoline, you’ll also find $0.15 per kWh electricity, making it similar to $1.50 per gallon gasoline.

overall, electricity from your wall socket is always cheaper than gasoline from a gas station. But…. When you go on road trips, supercharging your car and paying for electricity from Tesla, it will cost you the same as buying gas. Many SoCal Tesla superchargers charge around $0.45 per kWh, which is the same as $4.50 / gallon gasoline.

 

[Karma]

Welcome to MTC. I have a 25 AWD Lariat in Blue. No problems as I also have driven from GA to Upstate NY, and plan to drive more long distance drives. Side note, I retired from Kubota after 18 years. Good company and good vehicle.

 

[rk06382]

Welcome to the Maverick Truck Club forum from Alaska!

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