For those of you without hybrid experience

[Fish Chris]

Okay, yes. Hybrids get "slightly better" mileage in town, than on the freeway. But I just really want to stress something here > The only reason this gets so much attention, is that every ICE vehicle produced over the last 100 years, got better mileage on the freeway. So this makes it a big deal. However, the fact of the matter is, the difference between city driving and freeway driving with a hybrid, is much less than the difference between city and freeway driving in an ICE vehicle.

I've just heard too many people acting as if the 40 mpg figure for the hybrid Maverick is "only" going to be on the freeway, and as if it will probably get barely 30mpg's in town. Well if it turns out to be anything like my Prius, it will get 42 in town, and 39 on the freeway, for a combined total of 41.

I mentioned this in another post, I think a lot of the skepticism on mileage estimates, comes from several years back, when manufacturers were pulling all kinds of garbage (lying) about there mileage, but that resulted in some fat lawsuits, of which Ford took the hardest hit ! Now, if they say a vehicle will get X mpg, it will likely get X mileage mpg, + maybe a little more, if your driving it, keeping mileage in mind.

IF the Hybrid Maverick doesn't get 40 mpg "combined" then they need to talk with Toyota. But I'm kind of thinking it will get very close to 40 mpg, for most, and better for some.

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[Wire4money]

Okay, yes. Hybrids get "slightly better" mileage in town, than on the freeway. But I just really want to stress something here > The only reason this gets so much attention, is that every ICE vehicle produced over the last 100 years, got better mileage on the freeway. So this makes it a big deal. However, the fact of the matter is, the difference between city driving and freeway driving with a hybrid, is much less than the difference between city and freeway driving in an ICE vehicle.

I've just heard too many people acting as if the 40 mpg figure for the hybrid Maverick is "only" going to be on the freeway, and as if it will probably get barely 30mpg's in town. Well if it turns out to be anything like my Prius, it will get 42 in town, and 39 on the freeway, for a combined total of 41.

I mentioned this in another post, I think a lot of the skepticism on mileage estimates, comes from several years back, when manufacturers were pulling all kinds of garbage (lying) about there mileage, but that resulted in some fat lawsuits, of which Ford took the hardest hit ! Now, if they say a vehicle will get X mpg, it will likely get X mileage mpg, + maybe a little more, if your driving it, keeping mileage in mind.

IF the Hybrid Maverick doesn't get 40 mpg "combined" then they need to talk with Toyota. But I'm kind of thinking it will get very close to 40 mpg, for most, and better for some.

I don’t think 40 combined is likely. Aerodynamics of the maverick suck.

 

[Fish Chris]

I don’t think 40 combined is likely. Aerodynamics of the maverick suck.

I think it is.

 

[russross]

The estimated figures are 40/33/37 mpg for city/highway/combined.

 

[pnorwood54]

My 2020 Kia Niro hybrid gets 55 mpg daily /49 mpg highway (75-80 mph, better at each slower speed level) /44 mpg using cruise control, highway.

 

[Fish Chris]

My 2020 Kia Niro hybrid gets 55 mpg daily /49 mpg highway (75-80 mph, better at each slower speed level) /44 mpg using cruise control, highway.

That's great, as I would expect. This is why I will never own another full ICE vehicle. Even if I need one, I'll rent it from U-Haul, or Home Depot ,

 

[Red Ryder]

I don’t think 40 combined is likely. Aerodynamics of the maverick suck.

My manual Colorado can get low 30's, so why not?

 

[Eagle11]

What is it with people, everyone drives differently, If my Maverick gets 35 on the highway and 35 in town, it's a win-win for me. Do I believe the Maverick will get 40 on the highway, doubt it. But people buy because they like it. Why do people have to piss on other parades?

 

[Fish Chris]

The estimated figures are 40/33/37 mpg for city/highway/combined.

Where did you get these figures ? I'm surprised to see that big a difference between city and highway.
In any case, I feel like if it's rated anything like a Toyota, and I think nowadays they are, it will be quite possible to get very close to 40 combined....

 

[Fish Chris]

Honestly, I don't think driving a vehicle different is going to make a huge difference either.

In any case, I think your being a little over dramatic there sparkles lol
I really don't see anybody pissing in anybody's parade.

 

[Rkbrumbelow]

Where did you get these figures ? I'm surprised to see that big a difference between city and highway.
In any case, I feel like if it's rated anything like a Toyota, and I think nowadays they are, it will be quite possible to get very close to 40 combined....

No place authoritative https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2021/06/08/all-new-ford-maverick.html

 

[mamboman777]

No place authoritative https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2021/06/08/all-new-ford-maverick.html

I'm interested to see what EPA actually says it'll do. The published numbers I saw were "targets.". 33 on the highway does make sense to me for a box on wheels. I bet it's possible to get 45 mpg on the highway if you drive 55 mph everywhere. I got 40+ mpg in my 2012 Ford focus by driving 50mph on only highway for 100+ miles. I think driving habits and overall speed make a huge difference. I'm not an engineer, but doesn't air resistance increase at a logarithmic scale? That's why someplace around 55 mph is the economy sweet spot.

 

[Zotman]

Simply put, the lower the speed the higher the MPGs. There are ways of boosting mileage (pulse and glide) with hybrids, but if you are the type of driver that needs to be first off from the light and first to the next light, expect some disappointment when filling the tank. Taking it to the extreme, every time you touch the brake pedal you've wasted fuel going faster than was necessary.

 

[mamboman777]

Simply put, the lower the speed the higher the MPGs. There are ways of boosting mileage (pulse and glide) with hybrids, but if you are the type of driver that needs to be first off from the light and first to the next light, expect some disappointment when filling the tank. Taking it to the extreme, every time you touch the brake pedal you've wasted fuel going faster than was necessary.

I think/hope my driving habits will work well in a hybrid. I figured out that people are only in your way if you're trying to go faster than them. I get in the right lane, set the cruise control, drive the speed limit, and enjoy my podcasts. I currently use my manual to slow as much as possible because it's better on brakes. I like the feeling of rolling up to a stop light next to the guy who is driving like an idiot. I think to myself "hurry up an wait, dude." I'm looking forward to see what number I can get the mpg computer to read.

 

[Rkbrumbelow]

Simply put, the lower the speed the higher the MPGs. There are ways of boosting mileage (pulse and glide) with hybrids, but if you are the type of driver that needs to be first off from the light and first to the next light, expect some disappointment when filling the tank. Taking it to the extreme, every time you touch the brake pedal you've wasted fuel going faster than was necessary.

Not entirely true in a hybrid, some of the energy is recovered by regenerative braking, to be used when you accelerate again.

what would be interesting to see is how efficient the regenerative system actually is, in fact it would be cool to see the numbers for each portion to know that if you loose 30,000 kg m/s you can store 20,000 kg m/s (a 66% efficiency) and then use 15,000 kg m/s (75% efficiency) or whatever the real numbers are.

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