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My thoughts were to keep the payment low monthly as we are saving for a wedding but also needed the second car. Not sure how that changes the question.
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I've been the lease/finance thing myself. Could likely keep the mileage down enough to handle the 10900/yr and depending on the residual, it might be worth buying afterwards, especially since I'll know who drove the truck the whole time.

Really will depend on what offers are on the table when the truck comes in. I know I will want to keep something like this (truck w/great MPGs and not massive) for years to come, but if there are major improvements to this model or another brand (looking at you Honda) comes out with a similar hybrid, I might be looking to make a move in 3 years. TBH I don't really keep vehicles that long, so the lease could make a lot of sense. Luckily there's a lot of time for internal debate since it's taking so friggin long for this thing to get built!
 

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I waffled on doing no interest vs paying the cash. Obviously mathematically taking no interest and letting that money gain interest works out best. But ultimately I didn't want the payment and I had saved and put myself in the position to own it outright so that's what I did.

If you're going to finance, no interest is the way to go if you can swing it though. As a general rule of thumb leases are structured to favor the dealer and they're pretty good at covering the spread on potential outcomes. I'm not saying that there's not someone who could chime in and loves leasing but I personally would not.
 

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My thoughts were to keep the payment low monthly as we are saving for a wedding but also needed the second car. Not sure how that changes the question.
When lower payments are the big issue, lease pretty much always wins (unless you have a bundle to put down at purchase time). I'm not one of these folks with thousands of dollars just burning a hole in my pocket, so monthly costs are certainly a major influencer.

The big thing when negotiating is to never lead off with what you want for the monthly payment, since those nefarious wizards in the finance dept can always make something work...but it's never pretty when you take a harder look at the overall.
 

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IMO paying cash in full is the best option. No matter how low your interest rate is- you still have to make a monthly payment! We are Seniors on fixed budget by choice and live well using philosophy of keeping our fixed monthly expenses as low as possible while letting our retirement investment vehicles keep growing and only dipping in when needed or to splurge for something.... like a new Maverick! :cool:
If you set up a bank account with the exact purchaser amount earning even 0.1 percent and set up auto payments for the 0% 36 month option you will have more money in the bank than what you started with. In addition most of ford's and other car manufacture incentives when buying a new vehicle come into effect when you finance through them. A friend of mine bought a new 2018 F150 and was going to just pay cash. But the dealer offered a finance deal that came with a multiple sizeable incentives because he financed through Ford but the rate was fairly high. He paid the truck off a few months later and ended up paying nearly 10k under MSRP for it as a result of the financing deal.
 
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If you set up a bank account with the exact purchaser amount earning even 0.1 percent and set up auto payments for the 0% 36 month option you will have more money in the bank than what you started with. In addition most of ford's and other car manufacture incentives when buying a new vehicle come into effect when you finance through them. A friend of mine bought a new 2018 F150 and was going to just pay cash. But the dealer offered a finance deal that came with a multiple sizeable incentives because he financed through Ford but the rate was fairly high. He paid the truck off a few months later and ended up paying nearly 10k under MSRP for it as a result of the financing deal.
Also this ^ I've done this before also, a lot of times Ford offers you a great interest rate (0-1.9) OR like a 4.9 but several thousand off in rebate and clearance, so yeah if you have the liquid on hand you have the power play to do these kinds of moves and the finance charge for the first month or whatever is pretty negligible compared to the thousands off.

OP just do your homework and run the numbers. As far as I know currently, or at least when I picked up my Maverick there were no rebate options or anything worthwhile.
 

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When lower payments are the big issue, lease pretty much always wins (unless you have a bundle to put down at purchase time). I'm not one of these folks with thousands of dollars just burning a hole in my pocket, so monthly costs are certainly a major influencer.

The big thing when negotiating is to never lead off with what you want for the monthly payment, since those nefarious wizards in the finance dept can always make something work...but it's never pretty when you take a harder look at the overall.
Again good advice, don't negotiate payments. You can figure your own payment googling a payment calculator. The cost X sales tax + fees if any and then break it down and play with the interest rate. If you're going to finance the car, work solely on the number. They can make your payment anything you want ~ you just may be paying on it for the rest of your life.

Just do your numbers ahead of time and there will be no surprises at the dealer, and if the number doesn't add up, call them out on it.
 

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Not to stick my nose in but it might be worth looking into financing on a low rate.
Pulling out an extra $2250 every 3 months would be much better in the long run than pulling out all $27k right away.

Unless you are worried about taxes or a crash, you should be good. If you are in retirement your vehicles are likely all bonds or annuities, which typically grow at ~3-5% historically.
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My thoughts were to keep the payment low monthly as we are saving for a wedding but also needed the second car. Not sure how that changes the question.
For financing the monthly payment has a sharp drop off curve.

TermRateMonthlyInterest Paid over LoanTotal Paid
360%$750$0$27,000
480.90%$573$499$27,499
601.90%$472$1,324$28,324
723.90%$421$3,325$30,325
754.90%$419$4,399$31,399
965.90%$393$6,023$33,023
Estimates based on financing 27,000 (30k truck with 3k down)

If your only concern is payments, you can pursue the lower payment, but it costs you in the long run and you are paying it for much longer

Leasing is a whole other ballgame. It adds a benefit of lower payments and a guaranteed buyback, but adds in mileage, damage and other constrictions.

TermMilesMonthly Payment
247,500$448
2419,500$520
367,500$409
3610,500$415
3615,000$435
3619,500$454
3915,000$419
487,500$426
4815,000$443
Estimates based on financing 27,000 (30k truck with 3k down)
 

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IMO paying cash in full is the best option. No matter how low your interest rate is- you still have to make a monthly payment! We are Seniors on fixed budget by choice and live well using philosophy of keeping our fixed monthly expenses as low as possible while letting our retirement investment vehicles keep growing and only dipping in when needed or to splurge for something.... like a new Maverick! :cool:
My thoughts were to keep the payment low monthly as we are saving for a wedding but also needed the second car. Not sure how that changes the question.
Respectfully disagree with interest rates where they are now. Paying a few hundred bucks a year in interest to keep $20K+ is worth it. If you take the 0.9% for 48 months offer, you only need a 2% annual return on an investment (e.g. a retirement account) worth half of that to come out on top. You can then keep the other half you would have spent on a cash purchase for something else, like a wedding.
 
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Respectfully disagree with interest rates where they are now. Paying a few hundred bucks a year in interest to keep $20K+ is worth it. If you take the 0.9% for 48 months offer, you only need a 2% annual return on an investment (e.g. a retirement account) worth half of that to come out on top. You can then keep the other half you would have spent on a cash purchase for something else, like a wedding.
Inflation also is helping you too. As time goes on that loan actually becomes smaller compared to costs.
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A $30,000 debt from 2019 feels like a $27,600 debt today!
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This calculation predicates on your income also increasing or keeping pace with inflation though....
 

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Leases rarely work out in your favor. I will always buy.
Then your not leasing right. If you plan on purchasing, there is no price disadvantage to leasing first, then purchasing. The price of the vehicle will be the same. Except you have the option to give it back after 2 or 3 years when leasing, even if the actual value is lower than your residual in the contract. If it's higher (as is the case lately) you simply sell outright, and pay off the residual and pocket the difference.
 

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I know this may be a personal preference, but I’m curious to see what members have decided when it came to purchasing their Maverick. Did you take advantage of the special financing programs like 0% for 36 months or 0.9% for 48 months to own the vehicle? Or did you lease the vehicle for 36 or 48 months or longer? Of course there are pluses and minuses to both routes being a new vehicle and a strange financial climate in a covid atmosphere with limited inventory I am trying to decide what may be the best move? Thanks!
I was torn between the two as well. I was either going to do a 1 pay two year lease, or finance. The lease rates on these seem really high in my opinion, I want to say like 2.5% interest for 2 years or 5.5% for 3 years if I remember correctly. I'm used to basically 0% on leases. I like the option of being able to give it back or purchase outright at the end of 2 years, as my needs may change or there may be issues that I no longer want to deal with. In this case I opted for the 66mo flex buy @ 1.9% mainly because I feel like I will be making a bunch of mods.
 
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For financing the monthly payment has a sharp drop off curve.

TermRateMonthlyInterest Paid over LoanTotal Paid
360%$750$0$27,000
480.90%$573$499$27,499
601.90%$472$1,324$28,324
723.90%$421$3,325$30,325
754.90%$419$4,399$31,399
965.90%$393$6,023$33,023
Estimates based on financing 27,000 (30k truck with 3k down)

If your only concern is payments, you can pursue the lower payment, but it costs you in the long run and you are paying it for much longer

Leasing is a whole other ballgame. It adds a benefit of lower payments and a guaranteed buyback, but adds in mileage, damage and other constrictions.

TermMilesMonthly Payment
247,500$448
2419,500$520
367,500$409
3610,500$415
3615,000$435
3619,500$454
3915,000$419
487,500$426
4815,000$443
Estimates based on financing 27,000 (30k truck with 3k down)
Awesome. This helps a lot.
 
 







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