Does Rotary Shifter suck?

[MrShadetree]

I like that I can shut the engine off with its in gear and it automatically shifts to park.

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[dochawk]

This is a direct excerpt from the owners manual. So I'm not making it up. Nor speaking from ignorance. I can't say what YOUR vehicle does.

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He said I have the wrist of 55 year old.

wow, that guy must find driving more inconvenient than you do!

 

[Darryl]

Yes. Every vehicle I've ever seen can shut off whether the brake pedal is pressed or not.

 

[rk06382]

You all are too young. You haven't lived until you drive a manual transmission with the shifter on the steering column (aka "Three-on-the-Tree").

I learned to drive a 65' Dodge semi-belly dump truck with a 5&4 transmission. You had to double-clutch between gears. It was at a truck driving school.

 

[wax87]

This is a direct excerpt from the owners manual. So I'm not making it up. Nor speaking from ignorance. I can't say what YOUR vehicle does. But I can show what the actual owners manual says and what mine does

In park (P) power is not transmitted to the driven wheels.
Note: A tone sounds if you attempt to exit your vehicle without the vehicle in park (P).
Note: Your vehicle may not shift out of park (P) if the 12 V battery has run out of charge.
Note: Your vehicle may not shift out of park (P) if a fuse is blown.
Note: Your vehicle may not shift out of park (P) unless the key or remote control is inside your vehicle.
Note: The electronic parking brake could apply when you power your vehicle on with the selector in park (P).
Note: The electronic parking brake could apply if you shift to park (P) without fully pressing the brake pedal.
Note: The electronic parking brake could apply if you shift to park (P) on a slope.
Note: Do not manually release the parking brake when the selector is in park (P). See Automatically Releasing the Electric Parking Brake.
Note: Your vehicle could shift into park (P) if you attempt to exit your vehicle without the transmission in park (P). See Automatic Return to Park (P).
Note: A tone could sound when you select park (P).

where is this fuse located?

 

[ScottyC]

....I have a 2023 in the shop for a radio issue....

I noticed poor reception on my 2025 but didn't give it much thought since I mostly listen to Pandora anyway. I then noticed the small silver button on the top of the "shark fin" and realized that the dealer forgot to put the antenna on when they prepped it. Opened up the glove box and the antenna was in a bag. Screwed it into the small silver button that was actually the thread boss for the antenna and my reception went up 10x.....lol.

 

[Darryl]

I noticed poor reception on my 2025 but didn't give it much thought since I mostly listen to Pandora anyway. I then noticed the small silver button on the top of the "shark fin" and realized that the dealer forgot to put the antenna on when they prepped it. Opened up the glove box and the antenna was in a bag. Screwed it into the small silver button that was actually the thread boss for the antenna and my reception went up 10x.....lol.

I rented a car and wondered why the reception was so weak. Then I tried tuning to an AM station that I listen to at times. And got nothing. The antenna was missing. I purchased a one from Advance Auto because it was cheap and easier than going back to them. And I was going to be using the car a couple of weeks. But I forgot to remove it when I turned it back in. So they got a free antenna.

 

[Darryl]

I tried getting the parking brake to set automatically on some side streets around me. 3 different slopes. 1 about a 10% slope did not set on, hill assist was active at restart. #2 more than a 15% slope same result. #3 was a street that has signs saying "no street parking due to slope" and nada, zippo, zilch. So either the hybrids do it and EBs don't or my software needs updated. I noticed on the videos @Darryl posted the Pop up for parking brake set is much different on the 2025 than the red BRAKE light on mine. Digital dash compared to analog?

Just tried a 2023 ALL wheel drive EcoBoost. It does NOT engage automatically. Will try the 2022 hybrid later today if I get a chance in order to see if it's a model year difference or a hybrid vs EcoBoost thing.

 

[HeyBales]

The Truck Always automatically shifts to park if the door is opened and the seat belt unbuckled. The parking brake MAY or MAY NOT engage under those circumstances. I have noticed MY Maverick and those I've had in the shop at the dealership engage the parking brake when I shut the truck off on a moderate incline. I don't know whether my foot was on the brake or not when I shut it off. I just know the parking brake applied. There are some places I park where it engages sometimes but not others. And there are other places that are little bit steeper where the parking brake engages every time. Again I can't recall whether my foot is on the brakes or not when it happens

I thought I posted this a day or two ago, but apparently not.

If your foot is on the brake when you turn it off, the parking brake is engaged, regardless of incline.

Personally, having learned to drive on a manual in the hills, and mostly having lived in unloved places, I've always set the parking brake before shifting into R or P and killing the engine. But with the diffenrt controls on the maverick, this isn't happening (but my foot is still on the brae while turning the car off, so it sets)

So here Darryl's 25 XLT doesn't match the behavior of DocHawk's 25 Lariat.

It seems 24MY is out of the picture for auto-EPB usage, while manual says it could - no one on even some steep inclines from Lariat to XLT seem to be able to make it happen.

25MY manual makes that interesting distinction for how hard brake is pressed.
I'm going to test that on an incline, and I've been tracking the G sensors to see where the Hill Assist seems to engage for the value's given, so it's well above that value.

Note: The electronic parking brake could apply if you shift to park (P) without fully pressing the brake pedal.
Note: The electronic parking brake could apply if you shift to park (P) on a slope.

 

[HeyBales]

where is this fuse located?

I'd bet any number of fuses that have to do with driving.
Power steering, brakes, ABS, forward or rear lights, review camera, ect.

I'd bet it would let you shift if the radio fuse was blown. What else - well we know telematics doesn't matter.

 

[Darryl]

So here Darryl's 25 XLT doesn't match the behavior of DocHawk's 25 Lariat.

It seems 24MY is out of the picture for auto-EPB usage, while manual says it could - no one on even some steep inclines from Lariat to XLT seem to be able to make it happen.

25MY manual makes that interesting distinction for how hard brake is pressed.
I'm going to test that on an incline, and I've been tracking the G sensors to see where the Hill Assist seems to engage for the value's given, so it's well above that value.

Note: The electronic parking brake could apply if you shift to park (P) without fully pressing the brake pedal.
Note: The electronic parking brake could apply if you shift to park (P) on a slope.

Seems as if it an Ecoboost vs hybrid thing. Or possibly a model year thing. My 2025 hybrid’s parking brake engages EVERY time I park on a significant incline when I shift it into park. I didn’t even have to shut it off. But I tried a 2023 boost today at my job. And it did not automatically engage no matter what I did. If I cut it off with my foot on the brake or if my foot was not on the brakes. It did not engage automatically. I did not have time to check the 2022 hybrid at our dealership. It is the one there for the stubborn battery drain. I will probably start to tackle it again tomorrow. If I do, I will check to see what the parking brake does when putting park on an incline and get back with you all with the results.

Please post what you find, as now I’m curious also. Thanks!

Tested the 2022 hybrid at the shop just now. It does not automatically engage either on and incline. So it appears to be a 2025 thing where it automatically engages every time. I think my car was made in March of 2025. I know I bought it in May

 

[HeyBales]

Seems as if it an Ecoboost vs hybrid thing. Or possibly a model year thing. My 2025 hybrid’s parking brake engages EVERY time I park on a significant incline when I shift it into park. I didn’t even have to shut it off. But I tried a 2023 boost today at my job. And it did not automatically engage no matter what I did. If I cut it off with my foot on the brake or if my foot was not on the brakes. It did not engage automatically. I did not have time to check the 2022 hybrid at our dealership. It is the one there for the stubborn battery drain. I will probably start to tackle it again tomorrow. If I do, I will check to see what the parking brake does when putting park on an incline and get back with you all with the results.

Tested the 2022 hybrid at the shop just now. It does not automatically engage either on and incline. So it appears to be a 2025 thing where it automatically engages every time. I think my car was made in March of 2025. I know I bought it in May

DocHawk is 25 Hybrid Lariat - so ya a 25MY thing.

DocHawk said no incline required though. So perhaps some software differences.
Or Zero-point calibration is off on his - thinks he's at an incline.
I'd guess Hill Assist would happen if it thought that - not much hill required for that to kick on.

 

[OffGrayMulchWagon]

Did some truck stuff today that involved the rearview mirror being blocked with the tailgate down and needing to back up to a mark to unload. In the old world, this involved opening the door and leaning out slightly to back up. In the e-everything Maverick, i opened the door and the truck bonged and the engine revved and I didn't go anywhere...until I gave up and blind-guess-reversed (correctly, fortunately).

I think the electronics are fine for my parents. Were I to have it, I'd want a "work version" that let me drive instead of the servos. (shift stick that I don't have to reach down to, some kind of gear range choice, direct selection of N, stay in the mode/gear I asked for with the door open AT LEAST while under 5 MPH).

So, on this day,

the rotary shifter sucked.

 

[dochawk]

DocHawk is 25 Hybrid Lariat - so ya a 25MY thing.

I think I saw it in the manual (but it might have been on this site).

What actually gets me is the failure to release the parking brake when putting in gear; I've long been used to this on my Cadillacs and on the Crown Victoria before that. (Although Cadillac releases in both R & D, while the CV only did it in forward. So I became accustomed to putting the car in reverse by three to the right to park, than two to the left to reverse. More than twenty years later, I still occasionally notice myself doing this with a column shifter!)

 

[Darryl]

DocHawk is 25 Hybrid Lariat - so ya a 25MY thing.

DocHawk said no incline required though. So perhaps some software differences.
Or Zero-point calibration is off on his - thinks he's at an incline.
I'd guess Hill Assist would happen if it thought that - not much hill required for that to kick on.

Mine doesn't require a steep incline. Sometimes a slight lean will do it. There's a spot in my mom's yard that's probably borderline because it may or may not when I park there. I wouldn't be surprised if a software update changes some things. I noticed an update is available for my truck. But I'm not doing it unless I have an issue that requires an abs update since I can update at will. But can only get paid as an employee if I have an observable symptom that leads to an update

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