- First Name
- Jason
- Joined
- Dec 29, 2022
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- Location
- Seattle, WA
- Vehicle(s)
- 1994 F250 diesel supercab
- Engine
- 2.5L Hybrid
I placed my original order on 11/7/21. It was cancelled and converted to a 2023 order on 9/6/23, but the dealer advised me to leave off the tonneau cover and spray-in bedliner.
The truck arrived at the dealer Friday. I went down to pick it up with my 17-year old daughter who had never even been in a car dealership before. We got there at 4:30 pm which we thought would be plenty of time for the 20 minute drive from the dealer back to the ferry home at 8:20 pm.
When they presented me with the price, the MSRP was a couple thousand higher than the ORIGINAL 11/21 MSRP, even without $1600 worth of bedliner and tonneau cover. I asked the sales guy what they were going to do about that. Here's how the conservation went.
Sales Guy: Shrugs, says "Ford sets the MSRP, it's out of our hands."
Me: "The S stands for Suggested. You can sell it for whatever you want. Ty (another sales guy) just told me that if I didn't take it home he was going to add $5k to the MSRP and sell it to someone else today."
SG: Shrugs
Me: "I heard that Ford is offering an incentive for buyers with really long waits".
SG: "I don't know anything about that. Let me check with my sales manager."
ME: waits 5 minutes
SG: "You were right. Ford is offering you a $2750 discount off MSRP."
ME: "Thanks, but you didn't know anything about that and weren't going to offer it unless I asked?"
SG: Shrugs, "Do you have any other questions?"
ME: "Is Ford offering any other incentives that you won't offer unless I ask about them first?"
SG: Shrugs, "I don't know"
ME: Daughter pokes me and reminds me to ask, "Does Ford offer incentives for first responders?"
SG: "I don't know. Let me check with my sales manager." Goes away.
Daughter: "WTF? What is the purpose of this sales guy? Is this how you buy cars? This is stupid!"
ME: "Don't get me started, but I'm glad you get to witness this idiocy."
SG: 5 minutes later, "Yes, Ford does offer incentives for first responders. No, I can't accept your ID card, we have to go through a verification process at id.me"
ME: "OK". Goes through process. 15 minutes later comes up with an email from Ford with a certificate number offering $500 off a vehicle purchase.
SG: "Do you have any other questions?"
ME: "Same question. Is there anything else you're not telling me?"
SG: Shrugs
We ended up with $3250 off and my daughter learned firsthand how silly the car sales process is.
I forgot the part where the finance person tried to sell us an option that would fill the tires with nitrogen. I started to tell her that the atmosphere was already 78% nitrogen but then realized we would never make the ferry back home. She had already wasted precious seconds reaching for her calculator after saying, "Let's see, 12 + 12 is....." Not kidding.
I know every Ford dealer is different and your mileage may vary. Just make sure you ask about every discount you can think of. I wish I'd had a list because I bet I missed something.
Shrugs,
-- Jason
The truck arrived at the dealer Friday. I went down to pick it up with my 17-year old daughter who had never even been in a car dealership before. We got there at 4:30 pm which we thought would be plenty of time for the 20 minute drive from the dealer back to the ferry home at 8:20 pm.
When they presented me with the price, the MSRP was a couple thousand higher than the ORIGINAL 11/21 MSRP, even without $1600 worth of bedliner and tonneau cover. I asked the sales guy what they were going to do about that. Here's how the conservation went.
Sales Guy: Shrugs, says "Ford sets the MSRP, it's out of our hands."
Me: "The S stands for Suggested. You can sell it for whatever you want. Ty (another sales guy) just told me that if I didn't take it home he was going to add $5k to the MSRP and sell it to someone else today."
SG: Shrugs
Me: "I heard that Ford is offering an incentive for buyers with really long waits".
SG: "I don't know anything about that. Let me check with my sales manager."
ME: waits 5 minutes
SG: "You were right. Ford is offering you a $2750 discount off MSRP."
ME: "Thanks, but you didn't know anything about that and weren't going to offer it unless I asked?"
SG: Shrugs, "Do you have any other questions?"
ME: "Is Ford offering any other incentives that you won't offer unless I ask about them first?"
SG: Shrugs, "I don't know"
ME: Daughter pokes me and reminds me to ask, "Does Ford offer incentives for first responders?"
SG: "I don't know. Let me check with my sales manager." Goes away.
Daughter: "WTF? What is the purpose of this sales guy? Is this how you buy cars? This is stupid!"
ME: "Don't get me started, but I'm glad you get to witness this idiocy."
SG: 5 minutes later, "Yes, Ford does offer incentives for first responders. No, I can't accept your ID card, we have to go through a verification process at id.me"
ME: "OK". Goes through process. 15 minutes later comes up with an email from Ford with a certificate number offering $500 off a vehicle purchase.
SG: "Do you have any other questions?"
ME: "Same question. Is there anything else you're not telling me?"
SG: Shrugs
We ended up with $3250 off and my daughter learned firsthand how silly the car sales process is.
I forgot the part where the finance person tried to sell us an option that would fill the tires with nitrogen. I started to tell her that the atmosphere was already 78% nitrogen but then realized we would never make the ferry back home. She had already wasted precious seconds reaching for her calculator after saying, "Let's see, 12 + 12 is....." Not kidding.
I know every Ford dealer is different and your mileage may vary. Just make sure you ask about every discount you can think of. I wish I'd had a list because I bet I missed something.
Shrugs,
-- Jason
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