MPGs FAR below advertised and hype. Are you all telling the truth?

[Dmthomp32]

And I don't see the mileage that your referencing with my EB2.0. In the winter, it is 16 - 17 MPG or less, summer time it is around 19 MPG. Pretty much all in city traffic, stop and go, short distances 3 - 6 miles round trip with one/two stops. mid to to high grade fuel, not in the hurry and rolling to the lights. If you say that the engine does not even warm up fully, especially in the the winter, yeah, that would be correct....

Am I happy with it? No, but it is what it is and still better than my previous F150 with its 10 MPG under the same circumstances...

That’s pretty wild! In Charlotte our temps don’t get as cold as other places 16-17 mpg seems pretty low. I’m sorry to hear that, it is definitely better than an F150 but those numbers aren’t much better than a midsized truck like a Ranger or Ridgeline.
you can see this mileage average for this tank, it’s been all city driving over the past two weeks. I know that’s the computer number but I’ve found mine to be pretty close 1 mpg off most of the time.

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[23grayXLT84]

60/40 highway/city last tank was 29.9 cold, lots of headwind and 75-80 speeds. I'd say my lifetime average is now around 37 and will drop over winter. Summer same driving yields around 37+.

30 or 35 average over 20k miles at $3 a gallon is little over $10 a month... Don't sweat it especially if you drive much less.

For me I didn't buy hybrid for gas savings. I bought it because it was 1) cheaper than Ecoboost and 2) it's something different.

Would I pay a premium for hybrid now ? Nope.

 

[Larrythelunatic]

Slippery Mode for In City driving.

Nope. With all due respect…………
Eco mode in the city.
Why?
In the city you do more electric driving, requiring more regen to replace the juice used, something easy to do as you coast to the next light when it goes red.
Slippery mode on the highway.
Why?
At higher speeds, running the ICE, you are constantly charging the battery anyway. So you want to minimize drag when you lift your foot (regen). You’ve already got a fully charged battery anyway, once you’ve been driving at speed for a while.
For the record…….
18K miles, Lariat non-lux hybrid. Dash reads 49.3 MPG lifetime. Arithmetic shows it to be optimistic by <4%. I do it for every fill-up. Close enough to 50 to make the figurin’ easy. Done one 700 mile tank. Nearly did an 800 mile tank once, but conditions changed for the last 150 or so miles, ruining it.
Seen lots of 80+ mph runs, mostly on a couple of 1000 mile road trips. But generally try to stick to the back country roads.
Now if we could just do something about these “Deep Sleep“ notifications.
Oh……..
One more thing…….
Tires are inflated to 40 psi, cold. Easily gives me an extra
4-5 MPG’s. Drove bikes for years before my first 4-wheeler.
So avoiding bumps, holes and ruts comes natural.
Been doing it for half a century, now. Works for me.

 

[CD_SM]

The driving style can make a huge difference even if you don't iackrabbit your starts. My Mav hasn't arrived yet (being built as we speak per the tracker), but our 2010 CRV gets 4+mpg better when I drive than when my wife does. Maybe a third of that is she never turns off the A/C (we're in Southern California) and I never use it, but the rest is simply driving style. I do brake later and less for curves than she does, so my speed varies less. (Note I'm not saying my style will be better in the hybrid - it may not be - but pointing out that driving style matters.)

 

[GPSMan]

Nope. With all due respect…………
Eco mode in the city.
Why?
In the city you do more electric driving, requiring more regen to replace the juice used, something easy to do as you coast to the next light when it goes red.
Slippery mode on the highway.
Why?
At higher speeds, running the ICE, you are constantly charging the battery anyway. So you want to minimize drag when you lift your foot (regen). You’ve already got a fully charged battery anyway, once you’ve been driving at speed for a while.
For the record…….
18K miles, Lariat non-lux hybrid. Dash reads 49.3 MPG lifetime. Arithmetic shows it to be optimistic by <4%. I do it for every fill-up. Close enough to 50 to make the figurin’ easy. Done one 700 mile tank. Nearly did an 800 mile tank once, but conditions changed for the last 150 or so miles, ruining it.
Seen lots of 80+ mph runs, mostly on a couple of 1000 mile road trips. But generally try to stick to the back country roads.
Now if we could just do something about these “Deep Sleep“ notifications.
Oh……..
One more thing…….
Tires are inflated to 40 psi, cold. Easily gives me an extra
4-5 MPG’s. Drove bikes for years before my first 4-wheeler.
So avoiding bumps, holes and ruts comes natural.
Been doing it for half a century, now. Works for me.

Do what makes you happy.

In a head-to-head MPG competition Slippery Mode gives a MPG advantage to the novice or new to hybrids driver. Slippery keeps the newbie in EV mode longer because it is more "forgiving".... less sensitive to pedal movements
Hands down "coasting" is the key, neither regenerating or burning power.
Gotta use Newtonian physics to keep a body in motion, in motion.

Slippery is leaps and bounds better (and by that I mean more comfortable) in stop n go big city traffic jams. Reequires very little pedal effort when you just want to creep along. At constant speed, when you can use non-adaptive cruise control, I don't think any mode matters, unless towing. It will adjuat RPM up a little in tow mode.

In slippery I regen just as many kWh as you do in Eco. I'd bet $10,000 on it.
I just regen over a quarter of a mile putting very little stress, strain, or heat on the components. You do the same slowing or stopping in one-third the distance, generating three times the heat. Heat is wasted kWh, no???

Modes, ANY MODE is a crutch for the newbie driver.

Modes don't do a darn thing for the highly experienced (with hybrids) driver. Your foot on the pedals can do the same.

It's what makes you comfortable.
I think modes can teach the newbie a few things.

 

[Raymundo76]

And Just Like That, you've made Driving a Boring Chore.......

Oh not so : using the EV coach to get the max MPG is a blast. And for the record I was replying to the post not making a value judgment or recommendation (unlike some); so chill and keep on truckin.

 

[FloodingdowninTX]

36-37 mpg hybrid. Urban plus road trips. Maybe over 75 mph sometimes. It's easy to touch 90, not that I ever have you know. Not lying, not hypermilling, feels like a $22K cream puff at about 8,800 miles. Amen and Merry Chistmas.

 

[crgator]

 

[Larrythelunatic]

Do what makes you happy.

In a head-to-head MPG competition Slippery Mode gives a MPG advantage to the novice or new to hybrids driver. Slippery keeps the newbie in EV mode longer because it is more "forgiving".... less sensitive to pedal movements
Hands down "coasting" is the key, neither regenerating or burning power.
Gotta use Newtonian physics to keep a body in motion, in motion.

Slippery is leaps and bounds better (and by that I mean more comfortable) in stop n go big city traffic jams. Reequires very little pedal effort when you just want to creep along. At constant speed, when you can use non-adaptive cruise control, I don't think any mode matters, unless towing. It will adjuat RPM up a little in tow mode.

In slippery I regen just as many kWh as you do in Eco. I'd bet $10,000 on it.
I just regen over a quarter of a mile putting very little stress, strain, or heat on the components. You do the same slowing or stopping in one-third the distance, generating three times the heat. Heat is wasted kWh, no???

Modes, ANY MODE is a crutch for the newbie driver.

Modes don't do a darn thing for the highly experienced (with hybrids) driver. Your foot on the pedals can do the same.

It's what makes you comfortable.
I think modes can teach the newbie a few things.

Some things to ponder………….

 

[MaverickMom]

I'm getting 33 average mpg after almost 3k miles. 60/40 highway/city. I understand highway is going to be worse. But I do far amount of city driving too. I use Eco mode EVERY TIME and try to keep it in electric/charging using the coach as much as possible.

So what's going on? Are you guys being serious with the MPGs you're reporting??? BE HONEST

One of the big selling points was mpg and I have 20 year old truck that I can get 25mpg in with complete disregard for driving style

12000 plus miles on my hybrid. Owned it since Feb. 2023. 2 1600 mile freeway vacations. MPG for total time of ownership is around 47 mpg and some change, calculated by hand every fill up.
TiPs:

• Turn off your daytime driving lights in the settings.
• Use normal driving mode. ECO tanked my MPGs.
• Freeway driving, stay around 65 to 68 miles per hour for best combined of ICE and electric working together.
• Hauling loads, use haul mode - ICE and electric motors work together for great mileage.
• Below 20 degree F temps my mileage goes down to about 43 mpgs ( heated seats and Steering wheel).

 

[Mikknj]

Nope. With all due respect…………
Eco mode in the city.
Why?
In the city you do more electric driving, requiring more regen to replace the juice used, something easy to do as you coast to the next light when it goes red.
Slippery mode on the highway.
Why?
At higher speeds, running the ICE, you are constantly charging the battery anyway. So you want to minimize drag when you lift your foot (regen). You’ve already got a fully charged battery anyway, once you’ve been driving at speed for a while.
For the record…….
18K miles, Lariat non-lux hybrid. Dash reads 49.3 MPG lifetime. Arithmetic shows it to be optimistic by <4%. I do it for every fill-up. Close enough to 50 to make the figurin’ easy. Done one 700 mile tank. Nearly did an 800 mile tank once, but conditions changed for the last 150 or so miles, ruining it.
Seen lots of 80+ mph runs, mostly on a couple of 1000 mile road trips. But generally try to stick to the back country roads.
Now if we could just do something about these “Deep Sleep“ notifications.
Oh……..
One more thing…….
Tires are inflated to 40 psi, cold. Easily gives me an extra
4-5 MPG’s. Drove bikes for years before my first 4-wheeler.
So avoiding bumps, holes and ruts comes natural.
Been doing it for half a century, now. Works for me.

A HA! I knew there was a twist to your story - I've been fairly miserly on my Mav Hybrid and I usually don't get more than 43 MPG -- 40psi is the trick! But I won't do that as I remember the 1990's roll over controversy / deaths. I keep my tires at the rated PSI.

Interesting though because that's a huge increase in efficiency. Maybe Ford should design some solid rubber tires

 

[GPSMan]

Picture is not great due to low sun angle that shows every spec of dust. I have to park on a dirt lot at work but I digress...

700+ miles pretty much every tank I'm not towing somthing. CA winter recent shot. I use Slippery Mode almost exclusively. The very few miles I forget are Normal.

Below a shot a year ago when truck was new, October 2022 below. Getting 700+ miles per tank (not towing) since dealer handed me keys. Never in sub freezing conditions.

Maybe my MPG is so high because my 12v is not charging! (lol - kidding )

 

[Bobinmi]

Just traded my 2022 hybrid XLT in for a 2024 hybrid last week. I had 43300 miles on it. I averaged 41.4 MPG over the LIFE of the hybrid, ACCORDING to computer. Never hand calculated, but I have to feel it was pretty darn close. I am a conservative driver, 68-70 on highway. I always cruise to a stop light. Never hot rodded my maverick. My estimate was 60/65 percent city, 40/35 percent hwy.

PS, I never use the "eco" mode or make any of those changes, and I DO LEAVE it on coaching screen to remind me of my "electric" usage.

 

[GPSMan]

There needs to be a FAQ page.
The trucks only hold 5000 miles of MPG data.

If you never reset, it represents your most recent 5000 miles.

Still useful. Not lifetime.

 

[Dad]

23 XLT hybrid, 4400 miles since 3/6/23. 70% city, 30% highway. My life long average so far is 42. I see 42-46 in local driving, have hit 50 a couple of times. Worst I've seen on the highway is 36/37 but that has only been 70 mile round trips so far. I do drive very easy, not slow but take off and brake easy most of the time. Just my experience so far.

The hybrid will always get better mpg in city driving . . . more electric motor operation, but you probably already knew this.

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