Waiting for a replacement hybrid battery cable?

[bbhaag]

Show this to your dealer, they may not want to do it but its worth a shot

Did that dude really attach a copper connector to an aluminum wire?

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[APD]

Did that dude really attach a copper connector to an aluminum wire?

I don't know if the factory wire is Al, but assuming it is.
If you look at the bus bar with with fuses, it is coated copper. You can see when he grinds off the coating for soldering. all the bus bars and posts are copper.
Its irrelevant though, as all those parts will be replaced when the new wire harness arrives. I think its a good repair given the situation. It is safe and will almost certainly last until the factory parts are available.
Go look in your breaker box in your house, you will likely find several AL-CU joints. Not ideal but also not a death sentence

 

[bbhaag]

I don't know if the factory wire is Al, but assuming it is.
If you look at the bus bar with with fuses, it is coated copper. You can see when he grinds off the coating for soldering. all the bus bars and posts are copper.
Its irrelevant though, as all those parts will be replaced when the new wire harness arrives. I think its a good repair given the situation. It is safe and will almost certainly last until the factory parts are available.
Go look in your breaker box in your house, you will likely find several AL-CU joints. Not ideal but also not a death sentence

Umm......ok. So lets use your house wiring example. While my house does not have any AL wiring if it did and I needed to connect AL to CU I would use connectors that are NEC approved.

In the vid you linked was the connector and repair approved by Ford? If not who would be liable if any damage happed to the vehicle or its operator because of this repair?

IDK man looks like a shade tree mechanic repair to me and if it was my vehicle I would not want the repair to be done in this manner. I would wait until an approved Ford repair was issues or wait until a new harness was shipped.

 

[Red Ryder]

Possibly, my battery was fully charged when towed.

I went to the dealer one week prior to my truck having to be towed. I was trying to avoid the long wait that others mentioned.

On a positive note, the longer the truck sits at the dealer, the closer I get to utilizing the lemon law.

What symptoms prompted your dealer visit one week before being towed? Did you have an event similar to mine or something else?

 

[Chris_G]

What symptoms prompted your dealer visit one week before being towed? Did you have an event similar to mine or something else?

Truck was dead, I'd wiggle the fuse box cable and regained power. Service advisor said it was okay to drive, bad advice

 

[APD]

Umm......ok. So lets use your house wiring example. While my house does not have any AL wiring if it did and I needed to connect AL to CU I would use connectors that are NEC approved.

In the vid you linked was the connector and repair approved by Ford? If not who would be liable if any damage happed to the vehicle or its operator because of this repair?

IDK man looks like a shade tree mechanic repair to me and if it was my vehicle I would not want the repair to be done in this manner. I would wait until an approved Ford repair was issues or wait until a new harness was shipped.

Service entrance and sub panel wiring is usually Al. NEC approved. Usually coated with NO-AL-OX or similar when being joined to copper.

Guy isnt a "shade-tree" mechanic, check out his channel.

No probably not approved by Ford, but the Ford-approved repair will be done when the parts arrive. That's the point of this repair. ITS TEMPORARY and WILL BE REPLACED WHEN PARTS ARRIVE.
Parts not available, and no estimated date of arrival. Id be pretty pissed to be making payments on a new car that is undriveable for months.
Thats why I suggested he show it to dealer, and see if they would be willing to do it or something similar. Unlikely, yes, but he's got no other options until parts arrive.
The repair is sound. The OEM harness had problems, lots of people are driving around with less reliable wiring than this repair. Apparently Ford approved a shitty wiring harness lug to be installed, so "ford-approved" doesnt mean much.
I agree that I would switch back to the Ford-approved repair when parts become available so that there are no warranty issues.

 

[bbhaag]

The wire coming from the meter into my sub panel is also copper. What type of wire Ameren uses before the meter is not my concern.

Besides the unapproved copper connector repair this guy did he also hacked together an off the shelf inline fuse to use in the customers vehicle. A vehicle that is presumably still under warranty. Sorry bro but this is the very definition of a shade tree mechanic repair.

I would be appalled if my dealer did this without my knowledge or consent. Remember just because you can doesn't mean you should.

 

[APD]

The wire coming from the meter into my sub panel is also copper. What type of wire Ameren uses before the meter is not my concern.

Besides the unapproved copper connector repair this guy did he also hacked together an off the shelf inline fuse to use in the customers vehicle. A vehicle that is presumably still under warranty. Sorry bro but this is the very definition of a shade tree mechanic repair.

I would be appalled if my dealer did this without my knowledge or consent. Remember just because you can doesn't mean you should.

How did you get to "without knowledge or consent"?
The guy is a Ford master tech at a dealership. The repair was done with consent, and posted on youtube for the world to see. Not trying to hide a shady hack job.
The OEM uses copper buss bars connecting to the AL wire, but this guy cant? Should he have tinned it, yes for ultimate longevity....but again THE PARTS ARE ON BACKORDER, and will be replaced with OEM parts if the customer wants when they are available.
He used a fuse of the same rating, and soldered it to the copper buss bar, just like the OEM did.
So now all Eaton/Bussman fuses are also suspect and inferior quality just because they aren't FORD? You know ford doesn't make the OEM fuses or the harness right?

This will not void his warranty as the repair was done at a dealership with video evidence. The guy even says in the comments that he is showing this repair to ford. This kind of stuff happens in this industry sometimes....are you aware of the "FORD-APPROVED" TSB repair for preventing fire hazard on mavericks?

If you want to be without your brand new vehicle for an indefinite amount of time, by all means. The guy did his customer right to keep him on the road until the parts arrive.

 

[Mymaverick2021]

Am I the only chump waiting for a replacement battery cable? I'm on week three, dealership says they're waiting for Ford to ship parts. No loaner and payments continue.

Dig into this forum and look for the video where the Owner took it to a mechanic and they compressed a new eyelet on the end of the cable where it separated,It should only take a day to have them fix it. And if they won't get done find a Certified auto electrician to do it for you and get back on the road

 

[bbhaag]

How did you get to "without knowledge or consent"?
The guy is a Ford master tech at a dealership. The repair was done with consent, and posted on youtube for the world to see. Not trying to hide a shady hack job.
The OEM uses copper buss bars connecting to the AL wire, but this guy cant? Should he have tinned it, yes for ultimate longevity....but again THE PARTS ARE ON BACKORDER, and will be replaced with OEM parts if the customer wants when they are available.
He used a fuse of the same rating, and soldered it to the copper buss bar, just like the OEM did.
So now all Eaton/Bussman fuses are also suspect and inferior quality just because they aren't FORD? You know ford doesn't make the OEM fuses or the harness right?

This will not void his warranty as the repair was done at a dealership with video evidence.
If you want to be without your brand new vehicle for an indefinite amount of time, by all means. The guy did his customer right to keep him on the road until the parts arrive.

Um........becasue I watched the video and nowhere did he say that his repair was approved by his service manager, Ford, or the customer.

Also I don't appreciate you putting words in my mouth. None of my posts called the work done shady. I said it looks like work a shade tree mechanic would do and it does.

I did not say Eaton/Bussman fuses are of inferior quality. I said he hacked together an off the shelf inline fuse to make his repair work which he did in fact do.

 

[thosw]

Am I the only chump waiting for a replacement battery cable? I'm on week three, dealership says they're waiting for Ford to ship parts. No loaner and payments continue.

Mine took just over three weeks to arrive… hopefully yours will arrive soon. I haven’t had any problems or FordPass notifications since the new harness was installed.

 

[Chris_G]

Mine took just over three weeks to arrive… hopefully yours will arrive soon. I haven’t had any problems or FordPass notifications since the new harness was installed.

Thanks @thosw , fingers crossed. I hope to get cable replacement and recalls done.

 

[Mymaverick2021]

The wire coming from the meter into my sub panel is also copper. What type of wire Ameren uses before the meter is not my concern.

Besides the unapproved copper connector repair this guy did he also hacked Hawaii

Did that dude really attach a copper connector to an aluminum wire?

The wire is not aluminum it's the sodder left on the end of the cable he's putting copper to copper

 

[bbhaag]

bbhaag said:
The wire coming from the meter into my sub panel is also copper. What type of wire Ameren uses before the meter is not my concern.

Besides the unapproved copper connector repair this guy did he also hacked Hawaii

bbhaag said:
Did that dude really attach a copper connector to an aluminum wire?

The wire is not aluminum it's the sodder left on the end of the cable he's putting copper to copper

Wut? I didn't say any one hacked Hawaii. OMG....I'm out on this one. You guys can believe whatever you want but I'm out.

Good luck @Chris_G I hope you get your vehicle fixed in a timely fashion and without to much more frustration.

 

[Chris_G]

Wut? I didn't say any one hacked Hawaii. OMG....I'm out on this one. You guys can believe whatever you want but I'm out.

Good luck @Chris_G I hope you get your vehicle fixed in a timely fashion and without to much more frustration.

Thanks

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