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First time owning a Ford and it is just going to be the last, I'm just trying to find a way to sell it without losing too much money, after paying $12K above MSRP
You paid waaaaaay over MSRP on a new vehicle that you had no idea if it had bugs or not... and you're blaming Ford for this?

I guess common sense is uncommon.

Now if this were maybe the second model year I could agree, but you willingly bought in to be essentially a beta tester.
 

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And so it continues and not a peep out of Ford. There should be a recall on every hybrid Maverick to prevent people from breaking down on the road or worse yet having an accident.

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Although it's been fairly common for as long as i can remember to be cautious with purchases of 1st model year of lots of things, especially auto's, regardless of mfg, but it's still a shame that consumers are put in the spot of having to worry if their brand new vehicle is going to leave them stranded - that's for 200,000 mile beaters. That's really inexcusable, I don't care what the ford fanboys reasoning's are
 

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I don't care what the ford fanboys reasoning's are
I bought my last Ford in 1979 so I don't think I qualify as a fanboy but I think you are being far too harsh. They have a problem and they are working to find a fix. It will be fixed under warranty. And a simple solution is already available to anyone who has researched the problem.

The wiring harness has a fault that probably should have been caught but its my understanding that many of the wiring harnesses are made in the Ukraine. They just might have some other things to worry about just now........... Whether that is part of the issue, I've no idea.

It just astonishes me the high standards people expect these days. To be honest every time I turn the key in my car I'm kinda shocked that it starts..................
 

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I bought my last Ford in 1979 so I don't think I qualify as a fanboy but I think you are being far too harsh. They have a problem and they are working to find a fix. It will be fixed under warranty. And a simple solution is already available to anyone who has researched the problem.

The wiring harness has a fault that probably should have been caught but its my understanding that many of the wiring harnesses are made in the Ukraine. They just might have some other things to worry about just now........... Whether that is part of the issue, I've no idea.

It just astonishes me the high standards people expect these days. To be honest every time I turn the key in my car I'm kinda shocked that it starts..................
This problem could be fixed in any shop that has the proper soldering tools. Ford should be recalling all hybrids for visual inspection and if the problem exists, as I said with proper tools this could be permanently repaired in shop instead of waiting for Mavericks to fail. I don't think it is "high standards" for them to do this and prevent more bad feelings by their customers and people needlessly stranded on the side of the road.
 

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I bought my last Ford in 1979 so I don't think I qualify as a fanboy but I think you are being far too harsh. They have a problem and they are working to find a fix. It will be fixed under warranty. And a simple solution is already available to anyone who has researched the problem.

The wiring harness has a fault that probably should have been caught but its my understanding that many of the wiring harnesses are made in the Ukraine. They just might have some other things to worry about just now........... Whether that is part of the issue, I've no idea.

It just astonishes me the high standards people expect these days. To be honest every time I turn the key in my car I'm kinda shocked that it starts..................
Sorry if i offended you or anyone else but at the end of the day I stand firm in my personal opinion. Theirs been fairly large numbers of reports of glowing red catalytic converters, dead batteries, bad wiring harness, going dead in the middle of the road since deliveries started being made. Ford has put the burden on their customers to put battery chargers on brand new vehicles-to me thats unnacceptable. It's getting fairly close to the next model year order banks to open, Ford has known there is an issue with the hybrid version, particularly with battery and wiring harness, but unless I'm mistaken, ford has yet to issue a tsb or recall. What does it take, someone getting killed in the middle of the road because their brand new vehicle went dead in the middle of highway traffic. In my opinion, ford has dragged their feet in a prompt fix. These type things should have been caught in vehicle mule testing and decent quality control at the factory, along with quality control by the mfg of the components. No one should be astonished that a consumer should expect a brand new vehicle to be reliable and not leave them stranded - that is sad day in my opinion that consumers have lowered their expectations to be ok with substandard quality control and reliably in a brand new vehicle. If it was a made in china POS it would be a different story, but we're talking Ford, a USA Manufacturer that has been producing vehicles a very very long time. Where has the pride and standard of Qualiity gone? Yes I'm sure their will be some to disagree with me, and some that will agree with me. This is my opinion and everyone has a right to have theirs.
 

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Sorry if i offended you or anyone else but at the end of the day I stand firm in my personal opinion. Theirs been fairly large numbers of reports of glowing red catalytic converters, dead batteries, bad wiring harness, going dead in the middle of the road since deliveries started being made. Ford has put the burden on their customers to put battery chargers on brand new vehicles-to me thats unnacceptable. It's getting fairly close to the next model year order banks to open, Ford has known there is an issue with the hybrid version, particularly with battery and wiring harness, but unless I'm mistaken, ford has yet to issue a tsb or recall. What does it take, someone getting killed in the middle of the road because their brand new vehicle went dead in the middle of highway traffic. In my opinion, ford has dragged their feet in a prompt fix. These type things should have been caught in vehicle mule testing and decent quality control at the factory, along with quality control by the mfg of the components. No one should be astonished that a consumer should expect a brand new vehicle to be reliable and not leave them stranded - that is sad day in my opinion that consumers have lowered their expectations to be ok with substandard quality control and reliably in a brand new vehicle. If it was a made in china POS it would be a different story, but we're talking Ford, a USA Manufacturer that has been producing vehicles a very very long time. Where has the pride and standard of Qualiity gone? Yes I'm sure their will be some to disagree with me, and some that will agree with me. This is my opinion and everyone has a right to have theirs.
Recalls and class action usually require an injury or body. Nobody should be sorry for anybody ordering a 2023. The rest of us took a chance on a new hybrid and will survive after a lot of repairs. Good Luck to the Class of 2023!!!
 

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This problem could be fixed in any shop that has the proper soldering tools. Ford should be recalling all hybrids for visual inspection and if the problem exists, as I said with proper tools this could be permanently repaired in shop instead of waiting for Mavericks to fail. I don't think it is "high standards" for them to do this and prevent more bad feelings by their customers and people needlessly stranded on the side of the road.
By time Ford goes through a Engineering Change Order and gets all the signatures to make the change, then designs a tool to fix the problem, has it manufactured and training for all their technicians and distribute the tool to all dealerships. Get the picture.
 

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First off i don't own a mav yet. I plan on ordering one August 15th Hybrid. The connection that fails is under the hood from what i understand. How hard is it to get at? Could you just re-solder the connection yourself if you have this failure. Yes I understand you shouldn't have too but if its not hard why not fix it yourself and wait for a service bulletin to eventually come out or recall.;

Since Ford knows about issue I would assume it would be fixed by the time I pace my order and wait 8 months to get it. BUT if Ford does in fact know about it why no service bulletin at least. Sounds like some dealers are not aware of this issue.
 
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Another possibility as to cable type would be tin plated copper, used in aerospace and industrial applications where corrosion resistance is a key criteria. Standard practice would be to tin the cut ends when making up harnesses, so no copper showing would be normal in those cases. All stripped ends are also inspected to ensure no nicked conductors and no nicked or scuffed plating.

Not the first third-party supplier issue for Ford on this model, they better up their QC game....
 

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Sorry if i offended you or anyone else but at the end of the day I stand firm in my personal opinion. Theirs been fairly large numbers of reports of glowing red catalytic converters, dead batteries, bad wiring harness, going dead in the middle of the road since deliveries started being made. Ford has put the burden on their customers to put battery chargers on brand new vehicles-to me thats unnacceptable. It's getting fairly close to the next model year order banks to open, Ford has known there is an issue with the hybrid version, particularly with battery and wiring harness, but unless I'm mistaken, ford has yet to issue a tsb or recall. What does it take, someone getting killed in the middle of the road because their brand new vehicle went dead in the middle of highway traffic. In my opinion, ford has dragged their feet in a prompt fix. These type things should have been caught in vehicle mule testing and decent quality control at the factory, along with quality control by the mfg of the components. No one should be astonished that a consumer should expect a brand new vehicle to be reliable and not leave them stranded - that is sad day in my opinion that consumers have lowered their expectations to be ok with substandard quality control and reliably in a brand new vehicle. If it was a made in china POS it would be a different story, but we're talking Ford, a USA Manufacturer that has been producing vehicles a very very long time. Where has the pride and standard of Qualiity gone? Yes I'm sure their will be some to disagree with me, and some that will agree with me. This is my opinion and everyone has a right to have theirs.
You are 100 percent correct on your post, anyone who can't agree with it is pretty much an idiot.people need to quit candy coating it, and FORD needs stand up in recognition of the problem
 

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This problem could be fixed in any shop that has the proper soldering tools. Ford should be recalling all hybrids for visual inspection and if the problem exists, as I said with proper tools this could be permanently repaired in shop instead of waiting for Mavericks to fail. I don't think it is "high standards" for them to do this and prevent more bad feelings by their customers and people needlessly stranded on the side of the road.
People always say these known issues should be immediately fixed under warranty, but the mfr. tries to avoid a recall and just offer a “courtesy repair.” They’ll gather as much information as possible to try to determine the best fix, and to limit the number of vehicles involved.

My wife’s 2019 RAV4 had the fuel tank replaced, along with the fuel pump and fuel gauge, all non-recall warranty repairs. Then they did another fuel pump replacement after that. It was the first model year of a completely redesigned hybrid. Sound familiar? But, I guess we can’t trust Toyota, either.
 

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After a rash of flaming mobile homes caused by mixing aluminum wires and copper joints, you would think that industry would have learned that aluminum is great for transporting 12 oz of beer. Not so good for transpoerting electrons.
I remember that. My uncle was in that business.
 

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By time Ford goes through a Engineering Change Order and gets all the signatures to make the change, then designs a tool to fix the problem, has it manufactured and training for all their technicians and distribute the tool to all dealerships. Get the picture.
Yep a slow moving turd of a process where if things were quality tested in the beginning we wouldnt be debating. It's a well know fact that redo's are far more expensive to the companies than doing it right the first time instead of letting it slide, not to mention the sour taste that the consumers have to deal with throughout the process. I would imagine many going through the issue will likely not be eager to return to ford for their next vehicle purchase with memories of what they went through and endured

This speaks very poorly of fords quality control. They had time for Mach-E and Bronco recalls but no mention of Maverick. Sure not good advertising. Come on Ford, get your QC house in order!
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