ATTN: Amsoil Users and Potential Users

[A.Bursell]

I like Amsoil products, have used them for many years, and have no interest in a debate as seems to sometimes happen with these threads, please don't do that. This is for information sharing purposes only.

Previously, Amsoil had recommended their Fuel Efficient Transmission fluid for the Transmission and their 75w-90 Severe Gear lube for the PTU. I have used these without issue for 10k+ miles.

Amsoil has recently released new products that better meet the Maverick's specs and has revised their recommendations.

New recommendations:

Transmission:
ULV Transmission fluid
https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-signature-series-ulv-100-synthetic-automatic-transmission-fluid-ulv/

PTU:
75w-85 Severe Gear lube
https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-severe-gear-75w-85-100-synthetic-gear-lube-svl/

Still no fluid recommendation for the RDU.

I've gone ahead and swapped my truck over to these. Happy to answer questions about them to the best of my ability, I am not an expert or dealer or anything except an enthusiast.

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[MatthewPK]

Does the ATF have a Mercon ULV certification?

 

[A.Bursell]

Does the ATF have a Mercon ULV certification?

Most of maybe all Amsoil products they don't pay for the certifications, but they do ensure it meets or exceed specs for the certifications. They do publish all the specs if you want to compare for yourself, just click the links for tech bulletins under each product.

 

[Snox801]

I can tell you they all work.
I have run the oil, trans fluid, ptu fluid. Not a single issue. Have 280k on my edge 2.0 with the same style trans and ptu.
I’m at 45k miles on my 24 maverick since may. Swapped out all fluids for amsoil.
Many good oils but I’ve never had an issue with anything running amsoil.
Did even need the dreaded timing chain on my 15 f-150 with the 3.5 and that got totaled with 420k miles on it.

I figured cheap insurance as I tow a lot and off road both of which tax the driveline fluids.

 

[MatthewPK]

Most of maybe all Amsoil products they don't pay for the certifications, but they do ensure it meets or exceed specs for the certifications. They do publish all the specs if you want to compare for yourself, just click the links for tech bulletins under each product.

It's not necessarily about paying for certification, it's about specific fluid viscosity behaviors.

For example a LV and a ULV transmission fluid -- neither is better or worse than the other but the transmission is configured to expect a specific viscosity from one or the other. That's part of how the the shifting is configured. So if you use a higher or lower viscosity than your vehicle calls for you will get unintended shifting behavior.

 

[A.Bursell]

It's not necessarily about paying for certification, it's about specific fluid viscosity behaviors.

For example a LV and a ULV transmission fluid -- neither is better or worse than the other but the transmission is configured to expect a specific viscosity from one or the other. That's part of how the the shifting is configured. So if you use a higher or lower viscosity than your vehicle calls for you will get unintended shifting behavior.

You asked if it has a certification, so yes it is exactly about paying (or not) for a certification. Amsoil develops products that meet or exceed specs, but does not pay for certifications. All of the data is out there for the public to see, no hiding anything.

 

[BeardedMarine]

Thanks for the info. I use Pennz ultra platinum plus right now, no issues but haven't sent in a oil sample yet. I've thought about making the switch.

 

[MatthewPK]

You asked if it has a certification, so yes it is exactly about paying (or not) for a certification. Amsoil develops products that meet or exceed specs, but does not pay for certifications. All of the data is out there for the public to see, no hiding anything.

But which spec does it meet? LV or ULV or what?


ULV isn't a "higher quality spec" than LV. It's just a different fluid

 

[A.Bursell]

But which spec does it meet? LV or ULV or what?


ULV isn't a "higher quality spec" than LV. It's just a different fluid

The LV fluid meets LV spec and ULV meets ULV spec. For a period of time Amsoil recommended their LV fluid for at least some ULV applications, based on their testing. I ran it for 10k miles and didn't notice anything off. But now they have a ULV spec fluid that they recommend instead, which I have switched to, and honestly haven't noticed any difference.

 

[Snox801]

I’m still running the LV in mine. I’m at 58k of very hard miles tuned and towing. Shifting seems great. At this point I’m not planning on using ulv especially with as hard as I work the trans. A bit more thicker fluid may be better.

 

[710-oil-614]

Most of maybe all Amsoil products they don't pay for the certifications, but they do ensure it meets or exceed specs for the certifications. They do publish all the specs if you want to compare for yourself, just click the links for tech bulletins under each product.

So they charge the most for their products but can't shell out for the certs? No thanks.

 

[Cherokee]

2.7 Ltr Tacoma engines.
528,000 trouble free miles on Mobil 1
Then Compression started dropping ya think !
A buddy, same engine doing the same hard mile high cargo weight, in the Florida heat just like me went over 500,000 trouble free with
-NO readable compression loss-
on what ever cheap 55 gallon barrel of roach oil Jiffy lube pumped. I must stress, he used regular oil Not full synthetic oil, not even a blend.
We both logged about 90,000 miles a year.

Our oils were certified, even his cheapest of all oil out of a barrel.
I drove several engine’s past 350,000 miles. One was designed in 1957. I got 394,000 out of that one on Roach oil.

My Harley did just as well on my MoCo oil as the Amsoil riders did.
Now,

Tell me why I would want to use Amsoil ?

 

[Snox801]

So they charge the most for their products but can't shell out for the certs? No thanks.

Maybe the product is more important than the cert. based on all the oil analysis on this site we can for sure conclude that motorcraft has the certs but is not nearly as good of an oil as others that don’t pay for the certs.

 

[710-oil-614]

Maybe the product is more important than the cert. based on all the oil analysis on this site we can for sure conclude that motorcraft has the certs but is not nearly as good of an oil as others that don’t pay for the certs.

What other oils don't pay for the certs?

 

[Snox801]

2.7 Ltr Tacoma engines.
528,000 trouble free miles on Mobil 1
Then Compression started dropping ya think !
A buddy, same engine doing the same hard mile high cargo weight, in the Florida heat just like me went over 500,000 trouble free with
-NO readable compression loss-
on what ever cheap 55 gallon barrel of roach oil Jiffy lube pumped. I must stress, he used regular oil Not full synthetic oil, not even a blend.
We both logged about 90,000 miles a year.

Our oils were certified, even his cheapest of all oil out of a barrel.
I drove several engine’s past 350,000 miles. One was designed in 1957. I got 394,000 out of that one on Roach oil.

My Harley did just as well on my MoCo oil as the Amsoil riders did.
Now,

Tell me why I would want to use Amsoil ?

These are all just small smample sizes. Unless you guys were doing regular oil reports and comparing you have no way to know. I can come up with just as many people I know that have had issues and needed timing chains, new rings and all kinds of stuff not running amsoil. But I simply have no way to know if it was the oil or not. What I do know is my oil reports come back seemingly better than others with less miles and cheaper oil.

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