To Hybrid or not to Hybrid

[Hack]

Hybrid in mountain country? (I posted this on another thread, but thought it might be better here.)

I live in New Mexico. There are mountains here. 'Same with our neighbors - Colorado, Utah and Arizona.

On a long uphill, the battery will go flat pretty soon and all you have is the ICE. Will the hybrid hold highway speed going up long hills? Allow passing on hills at highway speed? (Probably not.) Loaded or pulling a trailer you'd be in the slow lane, but that's okay

On I-25 between Albuquerque and Santa Fe people drive fast - some well over 80. About half way between there's a notorious climb called LA Bajada Hill. When my buddy had a Prius he said he had to keep it floored going up La Bajada Hill to maintain 75 or so. He would get it up to cruising speed at the bottom and hope a slower driver didn't pull in front of him. Yeah, different vehicle, different engine, but the same system.

For me it's the hybrid or nothing, but I'm still wondering about this.

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[theek]

Gas here is C$1.50 a litre. That's just under $5 a gallon in US dollars. So expensive is relative. I drive about 10K kilometers a year but most of it is highway travel to my cottage ending in a lot of dirt roads with ruts or city and highway driving in deep snow.

I need something that is good enough but no better.

 

[KimoCarew]

Hybrid in mountain country? (I posted this on another thread, but thought it might be better here.)

I live in New Mexico. There are mountains here. 'Same with our neighbors - Colorado, Utah and Arizona.

On a long uphill, the battery will go flat pretty soon and all you have is the ICE. Will the hybrid hold highway speed going up long hills? Allow passing on hills at highway speed? (Probably not.) Loaded or pulling a trailer you'd be in the slow lane, but that's okay

On I-25 between Albuquerque and Santa Fe people drive fast - some well over 80. About half way between there's a notorious climb called LA Bajada Hill. When my buddy had a Prius he said he had to keep it floored going up La Bajada Hill to maintain 75 or so. He would get it up to cruising speed at the bottom and hope a slower driver didn't pull in front of him. Yeah, different vehicle, different engine, but the same system.

For me it's the hybrid or nothing, but I'm still wondering about this.

I had a Honda Civic Hybrid (1st gen) that would be at about 45 mph at the top of the hill. My wife had an old Toyota Truck that fared about as well as the Civic Hybrid. I think the Mav Hybrid will go over it with no problem.

 

[theek]

How did people tow huge Airstreams in the 1960's?

 

[Wire4money]

How did people tow huge Airstreams in the 1960's?

Big full framed station wagons with huge gas guzzling engines crawling up hills. People these days think they need to scream up a hill at 90 in high gear.

 

[fbov]

... On a long uphill, the battery will go flat pretty soon and all you have is the ICE....

That's not quite the way Ford's hybrid works, it's never an either-or situation when ICE is running.

In steady-state use, it's true the HVB charge level is dependent on your throttle foot. The lighter the load, the higher the SOC will drift, while a heavy throttle will get you both ICE and EV power, with EV slowly dropping as HVB charge depletes. At the limit, you're running at the engine's torque peak in 6.5th gear of the 8-speed, but at any road speed needed. Engine speed is not tied to road speed, so you can have peak torque any time, and use it to charge HVB, or move the vehicle as needed. Lots of flexibility.

 

[Ronaldo]

About $5k cheaper for a stock hybrid vs AWD Offroad. I love to hunt, and ice fish, and occasionally tow a couple ATVs. I really wish the 2.0 Turbo could come with a hybrid engine and AWD and could be switched on and off for the 4K towing capacity. I know this truck can't do everything but I'm so torn coming from a TDI Jetta getting 45mpg. UGH!!! Talk me into one or the other. I'd really like to know the real mpg specs on the gas AWD 4K off-road before I pull the trigger on one, since that's the way I'm leaning.

To me the beauty of the Maverick is the hybrid MPG, with front wheel dive with the weight over the drive wheel. By the time you add the 2.0 ecoboost and all wheel drive you might as well get a Ranger with a 2.3 eco boost 4X4 that tows 7,000 lbs. I think the 2022 Ranger will have a hybrid option that might hit the sweet spot. What a great time to live in, F100/F150 with carbureted 302s had a hard time getting 10 mpg.

 

[vengo97]

To me the beauty of the Maverick is the hybrid MPG, with front wheel dive with the weight over the drive wheel. By the time you add the 2.0 ecoboost and all wheel drive you might as well get a Ranger with a 2.3 eco boost 4X4 that tows 7,000 lbs. I think the 2022 Ranger will have a hybrid option that might hit the sweet spot. What a great time to live in, F100/F150 with carbureted 302s had a hard time getting 10 mpg.

I think I'll be disappointed without the towing capacity and the AWD mostly for getting on and off frozen lakes in MN winter. I agree the Ranger is much more capable, and I've had my eye on them for some time, but they're running at least $5k more right now for a used one vs the AWD 4K Mav. I think if I ever need more towing capacity my brother has an F150, and I've got a friend who's business has 2 F450's

 

[Tennessee]

About $5k cheaper for a stock hybrid vs AWD Offroad. I love to hunt, and ice fish, and occasionally tow a couple ATVs. I really wish the 2.0 Turbo could come with a hybrid engine and AWD and could be switched on and off for the 4K towing capacity. I know this truck can't do everything but I'm so torn coming from a TDI Jetta getting 45mpg. UGH!!! Talk me into one or the other. I'd really like to know the real mpg specs on the gas AWD 4K off-road before I pull the trigger on one, since that's the way I'm leaning.

I'm going to end up waiting for a hybrid AWD. They're bound to bring one out in a year or two.

 

[CLH917]

To me the beauty of the Maverick is the hybrid MPG, with front wheel dive with the weight over the drive wheel. By the time you add the 2.0 ecoboost and all wheel drive you might as well get a Ranger with a 2.3 eco boost 4X4 that tows 7,000 lbs. I think the 2022 Ranger will have a hybrid option that might hit the sweet spot. What a great time to live in, F100/F150 with carbureted 302s had a hard time getting 10 mpg.

Yeah I mean I do understand that the Ranger offers more towing capacity and off-road prowess, however, just doing a quick build the Maverick with a 2.0 and AWD and tow package comes out to $27,825. A similarly equipped Ranger (again, albeit with a higher tow capacity and a real 4 wheel drive system) comes out to $36,685. Might as well get the Ranger doesn’t quite make sense for everyone with a $9,000 difference. That’s huge.

 

[Tennessee]

Big full framed station wagons with huge gas guzzling engines crawling up hills. People these days think they need to scream up a hill at 90 in high gear.

Our wood sided Ford station wagon had a 454 under the hood.

When we moved to Tennessee in '73, our family of five went over the mountains in a VW bus, pulling a U-Haul trailer! I don't recall what gear Dad was in.

 

[Ronaldo]

Yeah I mean I do understand that the Ranger offers more towing capacity and off-road prowess, however, just doing a quick build the Maverick with a 2.0 and AWD and tow package comes out to $27,825. A similarly equipped Ranger (again, albeit with a higher tow capacity and a real 4 wheel drive system) comes out to $36,685. Might as well get the Ranger doesn’t quite make sense for everyone with a $9,000 difference. That’s huge.

True that. But Rangers have bigger discounts than a brand new Maverick. I guess I'm just stuck on 20,000/40mpg thing. That's amazing.

 

[Taco]

My 1980 VW Truck had front wheel drive and could barely hit 65 on a downhill stretch. In town it would get mid to high 20s in MPG. But dang it was functional. I cannot wait for my Mav, i just paid over $80 to fill up my Tacoma.

Just got my xlt ford maverick this week and it already has 350 miles. I have to drive 200 miles tomorrow.. It is getting almost 37mpg in the middle of winter.. That will be a full tank of gas.

I loving the simple controls and fordpass remote on my phone to start and unlock the truck.. I think I can also locate my truck if stolen by my phone by using fordpass?

 

[BDennis]

I would never refer to the AWD as an off roader.

 

[BDennis]

Hybrid in mountain country? (I posted this on another thread, but thought it might be better here.)

I live in New Mexico. There are mountains here. 'Same with our neighbors - Colorado, Utah and Arizona.

On a long uphill, the battery will go flat pretty soon and all you have is the ICE. Will the hybrid hold highway speed going up long hills? Allow passing on hills at highway speed? (Probably not.) Loaded or pulling a trailer you'd be in the slow lane, but that's okay

On I-25 between Albuquerque and Santa Fe people drive fast - some well over 80. About half way between there's a notorious climb called LA Bajada Hill. When my buddy had a Prius he said he had to keep it floored going up La Bajada Hill to maintain 75 or so. He would get it up to cruising speed at the bottom and hope a slower driver didn't pull in front of him. Yeah, different vehicle, different engine, but the same system.

For me it's the hybrid or nothing, but I'm still wondering about this.

On long uphill grades at freeway speeds it is the gas engine that does it all. It will also pass quite well.

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