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I have the XLT 2.0 with luxury and it is listed on my order with no associated cost.
 

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Thank you for posting this. Do we know what is included if no full size spare? Is it a temp spare or no spare at all?
 

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Mini spares should be outlawed! How many people have been killed because of donuts. I know of three right here in my area. What a joke!
 

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It also comes included with co pilot 360 (on my XLT), so luxury package is NOT necessary (come on Ford I thought you were trying to clear it up). This is according to the builder on the website as well as my DORA which lists full size spare at no additional cost. It makes sense they’d include it on the “safety” package, but then it’s so basic that it should be standard.
 

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Mini spares should be outlawed! How many people have been killed because of donuts. I know of three right here in my area. What a joke!
Why did they die on the donuts? Did they completely ignore all the warnings on the spare and drive at full speed for extended periods of time?
 

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Mini spares should be outlawed! How many people have been killed because of donuts. I know of three right here in my area. What a joke!
A donut tire is better than no spare tire at all. And if donut tires are outlawed, manufacturers will just stop including them. You'll have to pay a few hundred dollars for a full size spare, if it's even an option. Donut tires aren't perfect, but if you use them the way they are intended, you should be safe. That being said, out in some parts of the western United States and in parts of Appalachia, you can find yourself stuck 100 miles from the nearest tire shop. If you traverse those areas, a full size spare is a necessity. I have bought them from junkyards in the past. $35 for wheel and tire. The wheel usually won't match and the tire will have some wear, but they'll sure take you a lot further and faster than a donut.
 

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Why did they die on the donuts? Did they completely ignore all the warnings on the spare and drive at full speed for extended periods of time?
Two were turning too fast, one of which was trying to get on the interstate and rolled. The third did go too fast and after passing it is believed the wind blew him off the road. Plus I once saw some idiot running a yellow light end up taking a parking meter out with the left turn failing.
So the warnings on the tires don't do much good when the general public gets put at risk.
 

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A donut tire is better than no spare tire at all. And if donut tires are outlawed, manufacturers will just stop including them. You'll have to pay a few hundred dollars for a full size spare, if it's even an option. Donut tires aren't perfect, but if you use them the way they are intended, you should be safe. That being said, out in some parts of the western United States and in parts of Appalachia, you can find yourself stuck 100 miles from the nearest tire shop. If you traverse those areas, a full size spare is a necessity. I have bought them from junkyards in the past. $35 for wheel and tire. The wheel usually won't match and the tire will have some wear, but they'll sure take you a lot further and faster than a donut.
Good points David. I think the mini spare I tossed from my Honda said 45 MPH Max! My opinion is a vehicle going 45 on the highway is a hazard.
 
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Donut tires main danger are that the average driver is uneducated in their use. Many neglect them and they dry rot, or they use them to replace a front wheel that had a flat, or speed on them, or overuse them. Fully expecting them to act as a replacement for the real thing and not taking into account the limitations they just placed on themselves is what makes them dangerous.
 

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Mini spares should be outlawed! How many people have been killed because of donuts. I know of three right here in my area. What a joke!
I prefer the donut because much easier to change. If used as instructed they do the job.
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