Get EB now and trade for 2023 Hybrid?

[BlueOval5.0]

I am currently leasing a 2019 Ranger lease is up on August 31, 2022. I have decided that I want to BUY my next vehicle. I was on the fence on whether I should go for the EB or hybrid and never placed an order due to my indecisiveness. And now it’s too late to order a hybrid. After researching, I feel it would be best to go for the hybrid for long term ownership. If I were to lease, I would probably spring for things I don’t actually need like the 4K tow and FX4, which require the EB. I worry about the long term longevity of the direct injection and turbochargers, which is why I leased my Escape and Ranger.

I have the ability to sell my current lease to my local Ford dealer now and pocket the positive equity due to the current market conditions and can share a car with my wife for the short term. Or, I can keep what I have and just ride it out to the end of the lease term.

Would I be out of my cotton picking mine to order a 2022 Maverick with EB now and take delivery in March/April and then trade it for a 2023 Maverick Hybrid in the fall? Normally, the depreciation hit would be too much to bear but the way things are at the moment, I am not sure the hit would be too harsh, if at all.

Thanks for smacking some sense into me… I tend to overanalyze these things to the point of becoming paralyzed and doing nothing.

EDIT: I should add that I am still working from home and most of my trips are short, 10 mins or less running errands. My commute was 6 miles one way, not sure when we will be returning. I do take my son to ball hockey tournaments about once a month from April through October and they are about 3-3.5 hours each way. One trip is 400 miles each way.


Eric

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[dalola]

Most dealers will order with no commitment (make sure this is the case for you), so certainly doesn't hurt to give yourself another option when the time comes. Just make sure details of the final price are contractual & signed by both parties, to avoid surprises.

Then, when the Mav shows up (March/April is optimistic..), you can decide step 2.

A lot can happen by next summer, so I wouldn't speculate too far out.

 

[BlueOval5.0]

Most dealers will order with no commitment (make sure this is the case for you), so certainly doesn't hurt to give yourself another option when the time comes. Just make sure details of the final price are contractual & signed by both parties, to avoid surprises.

Then, when the Mav shows up (March/April is optimistic..), you can decide step 2.

A lot can happen by next summer, so I wouldn't speculate too far out.

All fair points. We shall see. Dealer ordering system was supposedly down yesterday when I reached out. Hop8ng to hear tomorrow and make a decision.

 

[FWDMav]

I would say drive the 2.0 Ecoboost for some time and see how you like it.

I'm not convinced that a hybrid vehicle is a good choice if it's not driven a lot.
With that said, I ordered a hybrid and I assume that I will only drive 4k to 7k max annually since I have a company car and another personal car. I've always wanted to try a hybrid vehicle and I've always wanted a light duty truck, so here I am. Also, there is no reliability data on the Maverick hybrid. Ford seems to get the hybrids right but we shall see.

I think the current 2.0 Ecoboost should not be a problem. My company car is a Ford Edge and between the 3 cars that I've had so far, I racked up a total of 160,000 miles. They are all the 2.0 Ecoboost. I did not have the coolant intrusion issue that is a known issue on the older 2.0 EB. Oil changes always at 10,000 miles. I assume it has a lots of fuel dilution because if i pull the dipstick or open the oil fill cap it reeks of unburnt fuel. Never really cared about the dilution issue because it's not my car. Now if it's my car, then I feel like the 2.0 EB's motor oil should be changed at 3k miles.. 5k miles max. Transmission is a different issue. The older 6 speed is so so, but so far i think the 8 speed auto is decent but indecisive at times.

Direct injection is always an issue on DI turbo engines. It cakes up the intake valves pretty bad. I do feel power loss near the end of the lease and gas consumption goes up as well. The BG Direct Injection service is a must every 12k miles on a GDI Turbo vehicle. Also a catch can needs to be installed on a GDIt.

 

[BlueOval5.0]

I would say drive the 2.0 Ecoboost for some time and see how you like it.

I'm not convinced that a hybrid vehicle is a good choice if it's not driven a lot.
With that said, I ordered a hybrid and I assume that I will only drive 4k to 7k max annually since I have a company car and another personal car. I've always wanted to try a hybrid vehicle and I've always wanted a light duty truck, so here I am. Also, there is no reliability data on the Maverick hybrid. Ford seems to get the hybrids right but we shall see.

I think the current 2.0 Ecoboost should not be a problem. My company car is a Ford Edge and between the 3 cars that I've had so far, I racked up a total of 160,000 miles. They are all the 2.0 Ecoboost. I did not have the coolant intrusion issue that is a known issue on the older 2.0 EB. Oil changes always at 10,000 miles. I assume it has a lots of fuel dilution because if i pull the dipstick or open the oil fill cap it reeks of unburnt fuel. Never really cared about the dilution issue because it's not my car. Now if it's my car, then I feel like the 2.0 EB's motor oil should be changed at 3k miles.. 5k miles max. Transmission is a different issue. The older 6 speed is so so, but so far i think the 8 speed auto is decent but indecisive at times.

Direct injection is always an issue on DI turbo engines. It cakes up the intake valves pretty bad. I do feel power loss near the end of the lease and gas consumption goes up as well. The BG Direct Injection service is a must every 12k miles on a GDI Turbo vehicle. Also a catch can needs to be installed on a GDIt.

Thanks for the feedback. I should mention that I leased a 2017 Escape AWD with the 2.0, had plenty of power and the 6 speed trans was fine. I had oil changed every 5k even though it wasn't mine. 10k intervals is insane.

The short trips are no good for the EB motors it seems and that is what I mostly do, which is why I was considering the hybrid. I thought it would be a good fit.

I just wonder how the used car market will be 12 months from now and how much of a hit I would take. The safe way out would be to keep my Ranger until the end and extend until Maverick arrived in fall. If I can get some positive equity, I would sell it now and make sharing a car work.

Thanks,
Eric

 

[Bob The Builder]

I would say drive the 2.0 Ecoboost for some time and see how you like it.

I'm not convinced that a hybrid vehicle is a good choice if it's not driven a lot.
With that said, I ordered a hybrid and I assume that I will only drive 4k to 7k max annually since I have a company car and another personal car. I've always wanted to try a hybrid vehicle and I've always wanted a light duty truck, so here I am. Also, there is no reliability data on the Maverick hybrid. Ford seems to get the hybrids right but we shall see.

I think the current 2.0 Ecoboost should not be a problem. My company car is a Ford Edge and between the 3 cars that I've had so far, I racked up a total of 160,000 miles. They are all the 2.0 Ecoboost. I did not have the coolant intrusion issue that is a known issue on the older 2.0 EB. Oil changes always at 10,000 miles. I assume it has a lots of fuel dilution because if i pull the dipstick or open the oil fill cap it reeks of unburnt fuel. Never really cared about the dilution issue because it's not my car. Now if it's my car, then I feel like the 2.0 EB's motor oil should be changed at 3k miles.. 5k miles max. Transmission is a different issue. The older 6 speed is so so, but so far i think the 8 speed auto is decent but indecisive at times.

Direct injection is always an issue on DI turbo engines. It cakes up the intake valves pretty bad. I do feel power loss near the end of the lease and gas consumption goes up as well. The BG Direct Injection service is a must every 12k miles on a GDI Turbo vehicle. Also a catch can needs to be installed on a GDIt.

My advice is change the oil every 5K on the EcoBoost as you stated. I would also recommend using an oil with an ultra low NOACK volatility number. Mobil 1 EP is considered by many to be the best outside of the Amsoils of the world. This will help a lot on carbon buildup.

As for that cleaning service, you should consider that when you do one of those cleanings with the engine running that carbon does get into the cylinder, and in the brief time it is in the cylinder some if it probably will get trapped in the area at the edge where the piston meats the cylinder and then be dragged upward while the piston moves up. Weather this causes significant damage to your engine is a crap-shoot. Sure there is a good chance it will be blown out the exhaust and not stay in the cylinder long enough in a spot that causes damage. But there is a chance that a sharp abrasive particle of it gets in the spot where the piston drags it up against the cylinder and damages it enough to cause enough loss of compression to damage the engine to the point that it no longer runs proper. YMMV for sure but I would never ever do that.

My EB will get Mobil 1 changed once a year at the 3K mile mark and when and if the day comes I notice a lost of power, then it shall get the Walnut blasting cleaning but I doubt I shall live long enough or still have the truck at that point.

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