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I get 30 mpg on my 5 cylinder with manual transmission, but that comes at the cost of truly sluggish performance. I'm guessing you have a V6 and an automatic.
Yes, the 4.0 V6 with the automatic transmission.
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Just got off the phone and put down my deposit with my local dealer so now waiting for them to start taking orders (like everyone else!).
Did this dealer ask for your drivers license and e-mail?
It appears that a number of customers have been misled by having a truck ordered, but not with their name on the paperwork!
 
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Did this dealer ask for your drivers license and e-mail?
It appears that a number of customers have been misled by having a truck ordered, but not with their name on the paperwork!
They already have all of my information from using their service center, and I had several emails exchanged with the sales person last week asking about the ordering process. Basically, they have a reservation list with a $300 refundable deposit, and as soon as the order banks open they call me to make the actual order. Several folks on the forum here have done business and vouched for them, so it should hopefully be fine.
 

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I have a 2011 Ranger XLT 4x4 extended cab with 72k miles on it, and I love the truck except for the horrible gas mileage (19 highway, about 14 around town). It is 12 years old and in my previous experience that's about the age where things start breaking / wearing out requiring more frequent trips to the shop, so it is approaching time for a new vehicle. I live in the north and will only buy AWD. What I really want is a plug-in hybrid Maverick AWD with the 4k tow package, and I'm confident that at some point Ford will make this, but the question is when? Do I keep the Ranger for another year hoping they offer this as a 2024 model (which probably means driving the Ranger for another two years given the lead times on new Mav orders), or do I order a gas AWD Mav as soon as orders open up (expecting the Mav within the next year so that means one more year driving the Ranger)? I tend to keep my vehicles for 8-10 years.

I'm leaning towards ordering now given the unknowns but would like to get some opinions, and this forum is pretty good for that... :)
You'll be waiting a long time.....

If you have to have AWD just buy the 2.0L ecoboost w/AWD regardless of trim level. You'll win either way on the increase in MPG going from 19 highway to about 29 -30 without using the ecoboost mode and 22 -23 MPG city.
 

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AWD is vastly overrated IMO. Id rather have the efficiency gain of FWD, even in snowy climates. Good set of snow tires makes all the difference. First snow of the year I see nothing but 4wd and AWD cars piled up on shoulders and medians. My FWD Fusion Energi with Nokian Hakkapeliittas (non-studded) has made it through weather you wouldn't believe. Only potential issue was clearance, and even then it made a pretty good snow plow. :D
 

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You might be waiting awhile... If by some miracle they offer an AWD hybrid you can be guaranteed it wont be 4k tow. They are gonna start pushing all electric soon so no idea what the future holds for ICE (which includes hybrids), especially on a small vehicle like this.
No California is and rest of the country is going to push back on that one. Going full electric without the means to keep your electrical grid production stable is pure insanity.
 
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AWD is vastly overrated IMO.
I've had FWD vehicles in the past, and AWD makes a huge difference in winter driving. It is a personal choice, but I won't buy another FWD vehicle while living in the north. Plus, I haul a trailer in the winter and some of the roads aren't the greatest. The more traction you can get, the better, and yes good tires definitely help too! :)
 

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I've had FWD vehicles in the past, and AWD makes a huge difference in winter driving. It is a personal choice, but I won't buy another FWD vehicle while living in the north. Plus, I haul a trailer in the winter and some of the roads aren't the greatest. The more traction you can get, the better, and yes good tires definitely help too! :)
Well then if you need over 2k of tow capacity you are back to AWD/2.0L ecoboost as standard features for the 4k tow package which will for all practical purposes make that Maverick build without any other options an almost equivalent truck to the entry level ranger sans the bigger bed size on a Ranger. You get AWD vs 4x2 on the Ranger and better gas mileage for about the same price of 25k for a Maverick XL trim w/AWD and 4k tow package vs. a 4x2 XL Ranger. Both will tow 4k in this case. Payload is actually a little bit higher than a 2022 Ranger by about 100 - 200 lbs.
 

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I live in the north and I think it depends on the implementation of AWD. I had a BMW x drive and one tire was on a patch of ice. All three other tires had grip. The car wouldn't move because all of the power went to the tire with no grip.

I also think a PHEV will not happen until a model refresh.
 

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where'd you pull that little nugget out of?
 
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AWD is vastly overrated IMO. Id rather have the efficiency gain of FWD, even in snowy climates. Good set of snow tires makes all the difference. First snow of the year I see nothing but 4wd and AWD cars piled up on shoulders and medians. My FWD Fusion Energi with Nokian Hakkapeliittas (non-studded) has made it through weather you wouldn't believe. Only potential issue was clearance, and even then it made a pretty good snow plow. :D
lousy drivers are mostly to blame for all those 1st snow slide-offs and pile ups, IMO. In this specific case of AWD- you don't get the IRS & 4K towing without it. That's the decision maker for me as I have a couple of trailers to tow beyond FWD 2k limit and I prefer the extra HP in ECOboost along with better road manners of the AWD when not towing.
 

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wow, you just joined 2 weeks ago and came up with that? I've been here since April 2021- and can remember maybe a handful of complaints since then- not exactly a "trend" IMO.
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