Fuel door push-to-open conversion?

[MostlySafeBear]

Then you'll hate most modern new vehicles. Even the base XL Maverick with either engine choice is basically a rolling computer. Tons of modules, all networked together, etc.

I don't understand how a person can live in the 21st century and still have any kind of fear of technology. It's not like its the 1960s and its all new and unproven for consumer applications.

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[Rivers90]

You know your getting gas before you get out.
The gas station will not sneak up on you and as you walking away from your truck suddenly the gas station jumps out and you must go back and push the button to open the filler door.
Fuel quality keeps go in ng down, The government keeps upping the amount of ethanol that can be in the fuel. More ethanal means fuel going bad sooner. We are having all kinds of fuel problems in off road motorcycles that sit a few months between use.

 

[MostlySafeBear]

Those fuel and ABS computers that you mentioned are still networked and updateable. Theoretically, even hackable.

As far as not liking infotainment, traction control, automatic transmissions, power windows, power brakes and more... the Maverick includes a large amount of those things that you don't like, even on the base model, regardless of engine choice.

But I'm not just referring to the Maverick, as I did say that all modern vehicles are basically rolling computers.

You're free to go buy something older, but in general terms, the market has spoken, and commodity auto manufacturers like Ford, GM, and others will make what the market will buy.

 

[MostlySafeBear]

Sure, you can disable any update abilities, but those are tied in with other things, and you lose everything connected if you disable it. Further, even if you lose those features, you still paid for them.

"Indeed the Maverick does, but just because I do not like something does not mean I will not tolerate it", ah, so you just enjoy the great American past time of complaining for complaining's sake.

"The market has spoken implies it's a free market which it is not", there is a difference between a regulated market and an un-regulated market. For example, emissions regulations (more than just auto emissions) have made our air and water cleaner over time, even as our population has grown explosively. It's weird knowing now that the worst emissions from a vehicle today are probably its tires and brakes leaving material on the roadways, rather than what comes from the tailpipe. As far as the chicken tax and footprint rule, I can't really speak to those.

"Electrically operated stuff is neat and neat is great until it fails, then you wish you had ole reliable", I'm old enough to remember carburetors and chokes, and they were no utopia. Electronic fuel injection supplanted them, and the general drivability from that change improved across the board. Of course it wasn't perfect (what is?), but it was a major improvement for a lot of people.

"I rarely have ever seen anyone complain about [manual items]", and yet, people did complain about them, enough so that commodity manufacturers, who definitely could include manual equipment in vehicles, have listened to their customer base, and they no longer offer it, except in very rare cases. The basest of the base F-150 has crank windows and no cruise control, and very few people or even fleets buy them. Even a fleet truck usually has the power group. You can go check right now at many different rental places. For every 1 you could find with crank windows, I could probably find 10 with power windows.

The capability is there for manufacturers to build more basic vehicles, no doubt. But there isn't a big enough market to support selling them.

 

[MostlySafeBear]

This still seems like complaining for complaining's sake.

Ford (and other major automotive manufacturers) will not build you what you say that you truly want - a basic vehicle with no power equipment.

They build for volume, and unless you can show them a business case including supporting evidence to sell hundreds of thousands of a more basic vehicle, it'll never even get to the concept stage.

Since this is America, you are free to start your own car company. If people like your idea, you can even crowdfund it. Honestly I would be VERY surprised if enough people wanted something like that to support anything resembling a mass-produced item.

Unless you have something more to add to this conversation and not just more rehashing of what's already been talked about, this will be my final reply on this topic.

 

[Sliphorn]

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Maybe this has been mentioned in this thread. Dunno.......But...
If the special electric gas door fails to unlock there is a green colored pull cord release located in the driver's side wheel well.
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[Timothyd]

I have to say, I have never known so many details about a car I haven't driven.

I'm gonna be a frigging expert BEFORE I get my truck. I already know more than the salesman. I do want to make some kind of reference of the fixes, mostly the programming issues with the controls.

 

[olderbudwiser]

This still seems like complaining for complaining's sake.

Ford (and other major automotive manufacturers) will not build you what you say that you truly want - a basic vehicle with no power equipment.

They build for volume, and unless you can show them a business case including supporting evidence to sell hundreds of thousands of a more basic vehicle, it'll never even get to the concept stage.

Since this is America, you are free to start your own car company. If people like your idea, you can even crowdfund it. Honestly I would be VERY surprised if enough people wanted something like that to support anything resembling a mass-produced item.

Unless you have something more to add to this conversation and not just more rehashing of what's already been talked about, this will be my final reply on this topic.

While I agree in general it's what society want electric everything, its really what a couple generations were brought up on.

Once upon a time Power Steering, Power Brakes, tinted windows, options like this were all stand alone. These started getting bundled. According to Auto companies reduce complexity.....bull...it is $$$$$$

Car buyers today have become accustomed to these convenient features.

Heck I like most of them. It is just sad that outside of mandated safety and emission feature one cannot order a vehicle as they please.

My F150 has home link. I had to get a Lariat to get that option. Thats just $$$$ greed. An option I really like as I have multiple doors to open. Having 3 remotes on my sun visor ahhh nope.

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