Ford Faces Class Action Lawsuit - Hybrid Engine Fires

[Hoagus]

There are NOT a lot of variables that would confound an oil analysis, at least as far as determining if there is an internal problem. Have you ever had an analysis done?

Mileage on the vehicle, mileage since the last oil change, operating conditions, and probably others, all lead to pretty complex equation to determine the relative extent of excess wear.

‘Math is hard!

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[Ozarkbeard]

In the best interest of your family you should probably sell your Maverick asap and start with something else safer.

Exactly
If OP is really worried about dying from a Maverick ICE fire, they should quit whining on MTC and get rid of their Maverick tomorrow; especially since they can usually get back what they paid for it - at least the Hybrid.

The risk of death by just going anywhere in any motor vehicle is probably much greater than the risk of riding in a possibly defective Maverick Hybrid and eventually burning to death, due to an ICE fire, and not being able to escape the vehicle in time.
Yet, people don't give it a second thought.

 

[srfdude44]

Mileage on the vehicle, mileage since the last oil change, operating conditions, and probably others, all lead to pretty complex equation to determine the relative extent of excess wear.

‘Math is hard!

Lol, you can get into all that, alright! For me, when I see 100 ppm of various engine metals in the oil, I know there is a problem.

 

[Hoagus]

Lol, you can get into all that, alright! For me, when I see 100 ppm of various engine metals in the oil, I know there is a problem.

Well, Ford’s not going to just wing it like that. What’s the lower limit of which metals at what mileage and oil age to qualify for a new engine? It’s not simple like you
think it is.

 

[srfdude44]

Well, Ford’s not going to just wing it like that. What’s the lower limit of which metals at what mileage and oil age to qualify for a new engine? It’s not simple like you
think it is.

Well we're talking about different things. I'm saying I will know when there is a problem without much troub le. However having Ford (or any warranty guarantee'r) acknowledge fault/responsibility, well that is another topic altogether.

 

[Hoagus]

Well we're talking about different things. I'm saying I will know when there is a problem without much troub le. However having Ford (or any warranty guarantee'r) acknowledge fault/responsibility, well that is another topic altogether.

I think it’s the topic of this thread.

 

[Dad]

Mileage on the vehicle, mileage since the last oil change, operating conditions, and probably others, all lead to pretty complex equation to determine the relative extent of excess wear.

‘Math is hard!

While that is true, the problem is based on structural failure of materials in the engine block. There is really no predictive of sudden metal fatigue/failure of a part that is hidden in the block that I know of.

 

[rivermaverick]

Thinking about the 2.5L Hybrid ‘stalling’ (only a vehicle manufacturer would call the engine exploding and possibly catching fire a ‘stalling’ problem).

The engine has been around for a while and has a good reputation for reliability.

Ford has developed an Atkinson cycle variant of the Mazda L5 engine for use in the Ford Fusion Hybrid, Ford Escape Hybrid and Ford Maverick Hybrid vehicles. They also used this variant under the Duratec engine family name in the 2010-2019 Ford Fusion. This engine was named one of Ward's 10 Best Engines for 2010. Fuel saving features include adaptive knock control and aggressive deceleration fuel cutoff (Source: Wikipedia).

I’m surprised that Ford can’t pinpoint the vehicles involved, they can trace the engines back to exactly when they were built but maybe not the components. I imagine pallets of cranks coming from the casters or machine shop with some of the bad ones mixed in.

I’d like to know exactly what the problem is – bad material, bad casting, bad machining, bad assembly?

At what milage are these failures occurring? Will 100% of the engines with bad cranks fail or will some keep running until they are out of warranty?

I don't have my Maverick Hybrid anymore but I don't think i would worry about being one of the few.

 

[Dad]

Thinking about the 2.5L Hybrid ‘stalling’ (only a vehicle manufacturer would call the engine exploding and possibly catching fire a ‘stalling’ problem).

The engine has been around for a while and has a good reputation for reliability.

Ford has developed an Atkinson cycle variant of the Mazda L5 engine for use in the Ford Fusion Hybrid, Ford Escape Hybrid and Ford Maverick Hybrid vehicles. They also used this variant under the Duratec engine family name in the 2010-2019 Ford Fusion. This engine was named one of Ward's 10 Best Engines for 2010. Fuel saving features include adaptive knock control and aggressive deceleration fuel cutoff (Source: Wikipedia).

I’m surprised that Ford can’t pinpoint the vehicles involved, they can trace the engines back to exactly when they were built but maybe not the components. I imagine pallets of cranks coming from the casters or machine shop with some of the bad ones mixed in.

I’d like to know exactly what the problem is – bad material, bad casting, bad machining, bad assembly?

At what milage are these failures occurring? Will 100% of the engines with bad cranks fail or will some keep running until they are out of warranty?

I don't have my Maverick Hybrid anymore but I don't think i would worry about being one of the few.

Great questions! One has to wonder if Ford is asking and answering the same.

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