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[Hunters Edge]

That's the complete opposite of have what I have read about eCVTs. eCVTs are very simple with a lot less parts than a traditional transmission.

I never posted or referred a regular transmission has less parts

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[710-oil-614]

So let me ask you something. Show me were the average life expectancy of longevity for a ECVT is over 200,000 miles. Not how long some have gone but average life expectancy.

So let me ask you something. Show me where the average life expectancy of the 8F35 is over 200,000 miles. Not how long some have gone, but the average life expectancy.

You have YET to provide any source period that would support your claims that the eCVT is not reliable.

The real kicker here is that you bought the 8F35 - pretty much the known weak link in the EcoBoost drivetrain.

 

[Hunters Edge]

So let me ask you something. Show me where the average life expectancy of the 8F35 is over 200,000 miles. Not how long some have gone, but the average life expectancy.

You have YET to provide any source period that would support your claims that the eCVT is not reliable.

The real kicker here is that you bought the 8F35 - pretty much the known weak link in the EcoBoost drivetrain.

We will see. So far extremely happy with the truck and especially the transmission, so far. Very quiet shifts smoothly, what's not to like.

 

[710-oil-614]

We will see. So far extremely happy with the truck and especially the transmission, so far. Very quiet shifts smoothly, what's not to like.

I'm happy for you and I wish you many more miles of trouble free driving.

Just want to be clear for everyone else reading this post that the HF45 eCVT found in 2022-2024 Mavericks is very reliable and is built on the success of it's predecessor the HF35 and all the way back to the Aisin Powersplit technology and HD-10 and HD-20 transmissions that Ford used in their early hybrids.

For 2025 - we see a new HF55 eCVT that is further beefed up to handle the rigors of 4K towing.

Here's a good article that can help folks better understand:

https://www.sae.org/news/2022/04/engineering-fords-new-hf45-hybrid-transmission

 

[PNWMaverick]

Lastly if thinking of longevity a ECVT lifespan on average is less than a transmission of course there are always exceptions to the rule.

You are thinking of a CVT and not the eCVT as found in the Prius, Maverick, and other hybrid systems.

You are thinking of a CVT. An eCVT is one of the most reliable transmission you can get. Big differences between a CVT and eCVT.

What this person said.

No, I looked into ECVT and that's basically the same longevity expected similar to CVT. Yes the ECVT eliminates belts and pulleys it still doesn't add significant longevity. At least that's what I have read from others more knowledgeable on this subject, (supposedly) than myself.

Both the CVT and ECVT came about to increase fuel economy not longevity. One maybe less expensive by reducing maintenance and the cost associated with it.

No, an eCVT is considered one of the most reliable transmissions there are. Owing to the fact that they have fewer components and those components are very robust. Electric motors by nature are incredibly reliable.

Unfortunately couldn't find the article and or u-tube videos I watched a year ago. Googling it to try to locate it. They group the CVT and ECVT together. Or it doesn't specifically allow Electronic continuous variable transmission in it's search. Possibly because they are both continuous variable transmissions.

Of course you couldn't find anything, because there isn't anything on the matter beyond how reliable they are. There is a reason New York taxis have been Prius for decades. Getting 200K plus out of them, and their transmissions, while idling in traffic, is very common.

Further, no one groups CVT and eCVT together, ever, at all. The only real commonality with them at this point is part of the name and their distant relative. They only share a name because they are named for the function and not how it performs the function. Just as the CVT was; the Jatco CVT being the most infamous.

We will see. So far extremely happy with the truck and especially the transmission, so far. Very quiet shifts smoothly, what's not to like.

There is no "we will see" about it. We have seen it, for about 20 years now with the Prius. At least a decade with Ford.

Other indicators of reliability are:

• The cost of extended warranties. Companies that sell these pay very smart actuaries to assess the risk so they can price their product accordingly. The higher the extended warranty cost the, statistically, less reliable a vehicle has shown to be over the long run. On higher risk vehicles they will charge accordingly. Anecdotally, every time I have shopped vehicles the extended warranty offers on hybrids were substantially less than on ICE.
  
  
• The factory warranty length. Outside of the federally mandated 8/100K on a HV battery, manufacturers don't have much incentive to offer longer factory warranties. Yet, your hybrid specific components across manufacturers tend to have much longer warranties. Again, speaking to the overall reliability expected from a product.

When multiple people are trying to inform you of the same thing and you double/triple down, you are probably incorrect.

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