265/60-18 Cooper Rugged Trek tires installed

[Snox801]

As requested

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[Newtz1]

where did you find your rims, I've got 18s that aren't bad but I hate the flat black look.
found some on Tire Rack but they're out of stock with no ETA

 

[Snox801]

where did you find your rims, I've got 18s that aren't bad but I hate the flat black look.
found some on Tire Rack but they're out of stock with no ETA

I almost gave up looking for them. I found them on Amazon actually.

 

[Montana]

Super glad your concerned. First I’m was going in knowing that I’m ok making adjustments. Second more than one person is running this size with no rub.
It’s that these tires are aggressive. That’s more likely why they rub a bit. they did not rub at all the first day. Installer checked, nothing drove 160 miles around town and many turns at full lock nothing. Second day started.

Again I’m gonna state I know what I’m about this is not the first 2.0 ecoboost awd I’ve owners or had larger wheels tire installed. Everyone has been tuned for e30 fuel and created much more trq. I heard the same crap with that. I have had zero issues with any of them. Correct edge has 200k on it.

As for being useless that all up to the subjective. For me nope I want a wider tire for sand and soft mud around my farm. Narrow tires simply won’t work as well for me.

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Except it does rub...

E30 and a tune does nothing for the driveline components btw. Just because "other people are running them" (which is a handful of people btw) doesn't mean it's safe or smart. But you started a thread with "no rub" followed by "oh snap they do rub"... Maybe "useless" was a strong term and I apologize, how about diminishing returns. You do you though. I have no doubt you can solve the rub issue... anyone with a hammer and a dremel could. Don't take it too personal. Keep in mind if lifting in the future, the unibody "lifts" will bring the rear tires forward and the front tires backwards.

Enjoy your truck. I look forward to seeing some real time use pictures. Like I said earlier, good looks.

 

[Newtz1]

I almost gave up looking for them. I found them on Amazon actually.

WOW Never would've looked there

 

[JP4AZ]

Jp4az also runs these and no rub. So maybe you don’t know things for sure.
Some tires will some won’t. I knew using these they may going into it.
Not sure what the problem is. I could go to a less aggressive tire in this size and it would not. It’s the side lugs of these that are touching. So a smooth sidewall would work. But as always people should go into it knowing and accepting the risks and outcomes.

Thanks Snox, My tread was much less aggressive than yours. At 3/4 turn, the outer edge of the tire was about 1/4" from the pinch welds, but never rubbed. I did go down some power line roads and river bottom crossings (sand and large rocks) nothing too serious and never rubbed or had any issues. My gas mileage is/was similar to yours. I did not buy it for the MPG's. Don't worry about the folks that disagree as we both have real world experience with 265/60/18 tires. Good luck with your truck and enjoy the shit out of it!

 

[Snox801]

Except it does rub...

E30 and a tune does nothing for the driveline components btw. Just because "other people are running them" (which is a handful of people btw) doesn't mean it's safe or smart. But you started a thread with "no rub" followed by "oh snap they do rub"... Maybe "useless" was a strong term and I apologize, how about diminishing returns. You do you though. I have no doubt you can solve the rub issue... anyone with a hammer and a dremel could. Don't take it too personal. Keep in mind if lifting in the future, the unibody "lifts" will bring the rear tires forward and the front tires backwards.

Enjoy your truck. I look forward to seeing some real time use pictures. Like I said earlier, good looks.

They did not run the first day. I put on a decent amount of miles down some rough roads and maybe settled the suspension. So neither statement was wrong. They did not run. Then later the second day the drivers side did.

Second how they hell can you think adding 100 wheel trq doesn’t afffect the driveline but tires do? Apparently you have never built a higher hp car or just lack of mechanical reasoning.

Tires are round and simple weigh more how is that affecting the drive train? Takes more power sure so does towing which doesn’t have negative affects of any worry some level.

 

[Snox801]

Thanks Snox, My tread was much less aggressive than yours. At 3/4 turn, the outer edge of the tire was about 1/4" from the pinch welds, but never rubbed. I did go down some power line roads and river bottom crossings (sand and large rocks) nothing too serious and never rubbed or had any issues. My gas mileage is/was similar to yours. I did not buy it for the MPG's. Don't worry about the folks that disagree as we both have real world experience with 265/60/18 tires. Good luck with your truck and enjoy the shit out of it!

Thanks I believe it’s simply the depth of the tread and on this tire it’s cleary much deeper that what you had. That being said it good for other to know exactly how close that size is and that certain tire will work.

 

[Montana]

They did not run the first day. I put on a decent amount of miles down some rough roads and maybe settled the suspension. So neither statement was wrong. They did not run. Then later the second day the drivers side did.

Second how they hell can you think adding 100 wheel trq doesn’t afffect the driveline but tires do? Apparently you have never built a higher hp car or just lack of mechanical reasoning.

Tires are round and simple weigh more how is that affecting the drive train? Takes more power sure so does towing which doesn’t have negative affects of any worry some level.

Differential gearing. Transmission shift points.

Those two things matter 10x more than tuning does when lifting and adding bigger wheels tires as well as towing. Towing has a lot of negative side effects. That's why we have the 4k tow package with different gearing. I thought it would go without saying, but apparently you don't seem to understand the gearing needs to work harder when you lift changing driveline angles and add bigger wheels/tires.

Look man, I've lifted a lot of trucks, tuned them too and done my fair share of re-gears. You are not changing gears out in the Maverick to accomodate for the massive amount of added rolling resistance which is more than added weight could ever do on the driveline. Tuning only does so much... and yea, it's been proven that it's hit an miss with tunes. It takes a lot of effort to get a tune that isn't so aggressive the engine is going to blow up when you are trying to pass someone on the highways. I respect the tuning knowledge you have shown as well as some others on this forum, but I side with actual mechanics that repair ecoboosts on a regular basis due to aggressive tunes. You are not taking your Maverick to the track like Fast does... it's a DD. There was no swap and tons of other work done to accomodate for the tune, right? If there was, congrats and I missed the memo but it still does nothing much for the PTU/RDU and the rest of the driveline.

Don't confuse my comment about your MPG with concern... I couldn't care less. But the rest of the driveline is certainly under more stress than you are seeming to understand. All I'm saying is you do you, but when your difs grenade themselves at 80k you'll know why.

 

[Snox801]

Differential gearing. Transmission shift points.

Those two things matter 10x more than tuning does when lifting and adding bigger wheels tires as well as towing. Towing has a lot of negative side effects. That's why we have the 4k tow package with different gearing. I thought it would go without saying, but apparently you don't seem to understand the gearing needs to work harder when you lift changing driveline angles and add bigger wheels/tires.

Look man, I've lifted a lot of trucks, tuned them too and done my fair share of re-gears. You are not changing gears out in the Maverick to accomodate for the massive amount of added rolling resistance which is more than added weight could ever do on the driveline. Tuning only does so much... and yea, it's been proven that it's hit an miss with tunes. It takes a lot of effort to get a tune that isn't so aggressive the engine is going to blow up when you are trying to pass someone on the highways. I respect the tuning knowledge you have shown as well as some others on this forum, but I side with actual mechanics that repair ecoboosts on a regular basis due to aggressive tunes. You are not taking your Maverick to the track like Fast does... it's a DD. There was no swap and tons of other work done to accomodate for the tune, right? If there was, congrats and I missed the memo but it still does nothing much for the PTU/RDU and the rest of the driveline.

Don't confuse my comment about your MPG with concern... I couldn't care less. But the rest of the driveline is certainly under more stress than you are seeming to understand. All I'm saying is you do you, but when your difs grenade themselves at 80k you'll know why.

So you really believe it stresses the drivetrain more than doubling the power output? Not a chance. Why hasn’t any of my other trucks or suvs with bigger heavier tires not done any of that. Heck I never change fluids in when I should and they are fine. What you saying is shit. What makes one size safe and not the other? I’ve simply got way to much real world experience with these awd 2.0 and other newer fords to believe that my bigger tires that fit under the stock setup is gonna ruin my drivetrain.
I may break it by launching it but that will be with stock tires then what?
I will do me for sure but you are stating very matter of facts and your simply wrong. I run the same size tire on a 2.0 edge that had a noticeably weaker trans and it’s got over 200k with bigger tires and a very aggressive tune. And I abuse it. Maybe I forgot to stop after 80k and pick up my rdu? Or it had zero effect on the driveline.

 

[Snox801]

I’m just also gonna add that I’m .002” taller than what ford puts on the tremor. And only.79” wider. So gearing and shift points must be radically different in the tremor? Because you yourself said that matters Yet I’m gonna have all these driveline issues according to you!
Get out with that.

I’ll also add that if adding power was so little compared to tires. Why are tires still covered under warranty times are not. Why does ford have trq limits in the ecu? Of that’s right to save the driveline. If it didn’t matter as much they wouldn’t limit trq.

Or you could simply realize your wrong and when you tried to take a dumb on me for what I did to my truck with a I told you so you plant your feet like that’s gonna change anything

 

[Snox801]

Glad you pointed that out cause that was one reason I didn’t want to lift if I didn’t have to. I have a few sets of wheels and tires for the track for my RS. A quick sway bar swap and I can be pushing some cup 2’s or rt660’s. My truck will be pushing some hp after Livernois is done with it but good to now adding all that hp and trq with sticky tires won’t be bad for my driveline becaus the gearing. Heck maybe it will last longer cause they are much lighter and shorter. Well according to Montana that makes sense. Not sure how some people logically can tie themselves in knots like that.

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