I just defected to Team Ecoboost!

[Deleted member 7089]

Better than defecated I guess...

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[Finnster]

Better than defecated I guess...

Do not underestimate the value of defecation!

 

[Fastbackjon]

Wondering what the current state of affairs is with the 2.0 DI Ecoboost engine is? My wife currently has a 2021 Ford Edge AWD with the 2.0 which she is leasing. We are looking into the Maverick for a replacement. We would buy a Maverick as leasing is way more expensive now. We could buyout her current lease on her Edge for a good price (she does 2 year leases) or we could buy a new Maverick 2.0 for just a little more money. Her Edge will have around 40K miles on it (thus out of warranty) if we decided to go that route. The Mav wouldn't be as nice as her Edge but would be under wattanty, etc but my main concern is the longevity of the 2.0 after reading many things online, lol.

Also looking into possibly going hybrid but not really sure yet.

Thoughts?

The many bugs have been worked out of the ecoboost engine performance over the last few years. (as with many engines and manufacturers) And-You can find any opinion or viewpoint you want on the web, the bottom line is preference, and my kids have a '20 Edge and a '22 Escape with the 2.0 and both vehicles nearing 30k miles with no issues at all. I ordered my Maverick with the 2.0 and 4k tow package, because I like that engine, I can work on it, and I like the horsepower. My wifes Flex has the non turbo 3.5. But I have friends with the turbo 3.5 or 2.7 in their F150s and a few have now reached over 100-150k miles. It is all up to the person.

 

[Stealth Raccoon]

With the EB, AWD and tow package (and a lead foot) I'm almost alw around 27 mpg, and that's as far from trying as can be.

 

[athertonbt]

I originally wanted a hybrid after I test-drove a demo at my local dealer, but I switched to EB because of the Granger deal and in hopes I could get it built quicker. As time goes on and I've read about dead batteries, wiring harness issues, etc, I'm happier with my choice, but that's really looking back in retrospect. It's not anything I knew at the time, I was just trying to get a VIN in 2022 which worked out. Both engines get so much more in fuel economy and performance than my 2006 Element that it's laughable to even compare, so ultimately I would have been happy either way I think. Good luck with your truck!

 

[Blkraven66]

I decided to try something different with dealer #4, after striking out with the first three.
As much as I preferred the Hybrid to the ecoboost, I finally looked at the reality of my situation.
I need a vehicle soon, my 2005 Uplander is nearing the end and I don't want to stick any cash into it. Also, I need a very reliable truck and from what I see, the EB wins that competition. The all-wheel-drive is a plus in snow country and will make for an effortless resale, even years later! The FX4 package was a cheap way to get the very best looking Maverick wheels - Gloss Black! The low ET's could be fun, if I ever need it. I know I am missing a bunch, but this is what matters to me.
I hope to trade (up?) to the Hybrid in 2024, assuming the bugs and delivery woes have been worked out by then. Maybe even a Maverick plug-in Hybrid by then?
And about those three failed earlier deals - All my fault! I didn't know how important COVP was and I assumed all dealers were doing it. I found out different.

My Ecoboost AWD XL is getting 32 mpg in mixed driving! That's good for me coming from an '05 FX4 F-150 that got 16 .

 

[Finnster]

[Yeah, It'll just cost me an extra $350 per year for gas, but I will still be saving that much over my 2005 Uplander and I can live with that!
I'll also be happy if I can get the EB a few months earlier than I would have gotten the Hybrid.

Based on the Ecoboost rated 25 mpg combined and the Hybrid 37 mpg combined, driving 12000 miles/yr with gas at $3.50/gal, the Hybrid would save you $546. Of course these number vary in real world driving as I for one consistently get 600 miles per tank and average 43 mpg with the Hybrid.
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I am hoping to significantly beat the EPA average!
I avoid the city like a plague. I shop almost entirely on the fringe of the city, just off the freeways. My driving is 90% freeway @ 68-72 MPH and county roads @ 45 MPH. So I should do alright.
My last tank on the 2005 Uplander was 22MPG, I'll bepissed if I only average 25 while hypermiling the Ecoboost!

 

[Finnster]

@KeinoDoggy, this is my reply to your post. I'm not sure what happened in my previous post.

I am hoping to significantly beat the EPA average!
I avoid the city like a plague. I shop almost entirely on the fringe of the city, just off the freeways. My driving is 90% freeway @ 68-72 MPH and county roads @ 45 MPH. So I should do alright.
My last tank on the 2005 Uplander was 22MPG, I'll bepissed if I only average 25 while hypermiling the Ecoboost!

 

[Brianc]

My Ecoboost AWD XL is getting 32 mpg in mixed driving! That's good for me coming from an '05 FX4 F-150 that got 16 .

I dont know what I did but on my last couple tanks of gas I have been averaging 30.9 mpg in about a 60/40 mix of highway and city driving with my 2.EB with Fx4. I am at 6600 miles so perhaps a breakin has occurred. I had been averaging 29.5 up until recently. I also do not hypermile, but I do keep the on/off function active and havent had to use AC as much. I am not complaining at all.

 

[NJBob]

Don't be concerned!
I know what an "Atkinson Cycle" engine is and that they are reliable! It's the Hybrid's "flywheel clutch" that concerns me mechanically. The wiring harness lug has been addressed I believe, and doesn't worry me in the least - easy fix.

What is a flywheel clutch. Is it similar to a centrifugal clutch used on mini bikes? It has a cvt which from what I know is a set of pulleys that change diameter.

 

[Finnster]

What is a flywheel clutch. Is it similar to a centrifugal clutch used on mini bikes? It has a cvt which from what I know is a set of pulleys that change diameter.

I don't yet know exactly how the "flywheel clutch" works, but I know what it does.
I have seen it called different names, but it is the safety device used on Ford eCVT transmissions.
It it looks like an ordinary flywheel from what I see in videos. It is designed as a fail safe to "slip" in case the there is a malfunction in the computer control, or other reasons, that causes the torque that is put upon the flywheel to become too great for the system to handle.
The "flywheel clutch" slips to prevent gear damage in the eCVT!
The eCVT is a fully geared transmission! No Belts, chains, just gears.
Good video:

 

[Old Hickory Trojan]

I hate to tell you this but the hybrid also has a gas engine - one that is not forced induction or direct injected, at that.

I think both engines are good choices. I owned an EB XL for a month and put 2,000 miles on it. Plenty of power and a 26mpg average. Great for the money.

I take issue with trying to scare people.. the hybrid has an issue with a battery cable, but that’s poor build quality. The system itself should be extremely reliable long term.

Personally I've never been a fan of turbo charged engines as I've known folks who have had them with nothing but issues and cost related servicing. I prefer fully asperated engines and that is why along with MPG I preferred the hybrid and the 2021 Subaru Crosstrek Sport I have and I'm getting 30 MPG with a roof top carrier mostly city from that (34MPG when I remove the carrier). Once Ford corrects the cable harness issue and improves the braking software the Hybrid should be pretty damn perfect...Not sure Ford will ever perfect the turbo to my satisfaction.

 

[Brett3550]

I periodically have to tow 3,000 lbs or load up a few Wisconsin women, so an ecoboost was my only option. Smart move young Badger!

 

[Nw_adventure]

I originally wanted a hybrid after I test-drove a demo at my local dealer, but I switched to EB because of the Granger deal and in hopes I could get it built quicker. As time goes on and I've read about dead batteries, wiring harness issues, etc, I'm happier with my choice, but that's really looking back in retrospect. It's not anything I knew at the time, I was just trying to get a VIN in 2022 which worked out. Both engines get so much more in fuel economy and performance than my 2006 Element that it's laughable to even compare, so ultimately I would have been happy either way I think. Good luck with your truck!

Still got my 5/Sp manual 2004 Element - EX

 

[Flight Test]

Cant go wrong with a gas engine. Havent heard of one being a lemon yet. Might not get the fuel efficiency of a hybrid but you will get peace of mind knowing that you wont be stuck with a dead hybrid battery.

Amen brother!!

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