? For anyone with an honest answer?

[Pickles]

I am far past the point of wondering how Ford plans to fill all 2022 orders. It is now apparent it can not be accomplished this year. There are a large number of dealers with dozens of orders on their books who have yet to receive even one retail allocation. Is there anybody that can convince me I am wrong? Also WHY is it these dealers are passed over for retail allocations? Placed my order on July 1 Was informed that I was the first to place a Maverick order with them. STILL NOT SCHEDULED! Proirity 2 since November. Thank you all for letting me vent.

Your welcome for the vent. Its a safe-ish place lol nobody really can answer your question though. Cuz we dont work for ford But as for your point about not all 2022 orders being filled, for certain youre right they wont. Ford admitted this months ago. Hence why they suggested dropping constraint features from builds for those who want 22 models

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[Lugnut]

Your welcome for the vent. Its a safe-ish place lol nobody really can answer your question though. Cuz we dont work for ford But as for your point about not all 2022 orders being filled, for certain youre right they wont. Ford admitted this months ago. Hence why they suggested dropping constraint features from builds for those who want 22 models

To me constraints are nothing more than a convenient excuse to deny builds. [ The dog ate my homework] They claim tonneau covers are constrained, although they are available nearly everywhere you look. If its the installation that holding things up, send them along with the vehicle and have the dealer install them. What I am trying to say is there is always a solution to the problem, IF A SOLUTION WANTS TO BE FOUND!

 

[fourwheelsandadream]

To me constraints are nothing more than a convenient excuse to deny builds. [ The dog ate my homework] They claim tonneau covers are constrained, although they are available nearly everywhere you look. If its the installation that holding things up, send them along with the vehicle and have the dealer install them. What I am trying to say is there is always a solution to the problem, IF A SOLUTION WANTS TO BE FOUND!

Tonneau covers are not available everywhere... There's quite a long lead time some places... I just ordered mud flaps yesterday (not OEM) and was told it's currently a 4-6 week lead time

 

[Tbolt]

You are reading waaaaay to much into this Lugnut. Your originally premise that Ford is doing this on purpose to punish/put dealers out of business is both a fabrication and libelous.

Forget the Maverick, nobody has any stock, certainly nowhere near what is typical, that’s why the used car market is on fire and they can ask for an ADM on what they do have.

Could they have handled the place in line/order process better? Most likely. But that still doesn’t take into account constraints. There would have always been folks skipped out of necessity. This was known for months.

 

[Lugnut]

You are reading waaaaay to much into this Lugnut. Your originally premise that Ford is doing this on purpose to punish/put dealers out of business is both a fabrication and libelous.

Forget the Maverick, nobody has any stock, certainly nowhere near what is typical, that’s why the used car market is on fire and they can ask for an ADM on what they do have.

Could they have handled the place in line/order process better? Most likely. But that still doesn’t take into account constraints. There would have always been folks skipped out of necessity. This was known for months.

I have stated this before. We are not discussing in stock dealer inventory. It is the retail orders that are my concern! There are dealers that have not yet gotten ANY retail units delivered or scheduled.

 

[olderbudwiser]

Not really enough information to give you an accurate answer.

Echo or Hybrid?
Lux or Not?
CP360?
Tonneau Cover?
SIBL?

The trim and options are making a big difference.

I would disagree here. A July 1 order should be delivered regardless of what was ordered.

I ordered mine in October of 21. My ordering dealer had several Mavericks at that time. One was a Lariat , lux, moon roof, loaded, including SIBL and Tri Fold hard tonneau. Asked if would be interested in that one. Knowing I was a A/Z plan customer.

Regardless a July I order should be in the customers hands long ago. Don't care what the options are.

 

[Kylescc13]

I ordered a hybrid Oct 15 2021 should be at the dealer ship may 16 to the 22 finally wooooo

 

[Romac]

I ordered mine in late July early august last year, and received it right before New Years. At the time I had initially ordered a hybrid lux, started getting cold feet (I like powerful vehicles) and switched to awd ecoboost. While I love it and it is surprisingly quick, I wish I would’ve held out for the hybrid especially given the gas situation.

Now that being said, I believe I got mine quicker because I switched away from constraints (lux, hybrid, bedliner all dropped). But my primary goal was not to drop constraints, I just happened to want certain features at a certain price.

I am a Ford employee, so I feel like I can say this both with and without bias. With bias, the constraints are real. Parts shortages are constantly happening and we’re constantly adapting on the fly. It makes me sick in my hometown and my home plant (Kentucky Truck) the vehicles we are running without stock to be repaired later, I think it’s hurting our overall quality tremendously, but the market demand is at an extreme we haven’t seen before and so is corporate greed. I’m not sure what the solution is anymore.

That being said, op, if you truly want the maverick and it checks all the boxes, then I believe it is worth the wait. But it’s also true that Ford sucks. They were unprepared and caught with their pants down around this global situation - yes, just like thousands of other corporations- but Ford is prioritizing higher profit trucks (super dutys, navigators) at the expense of cheaper ones. Parts are being funneled into the higher profit margin plants priority wise, which I understand, but I am curious as to what the long term customer effect of these decisions are going to be. Throw in on top of this that Ford has a pretty archaic, unsatisfactory and at times, shady dealer network and this was all a recipe for disaster.

I don’t hold any customers responsible for this. Ford has had absolutely terrible communications, dealership policy’s etc and it’s catching up with them. If you want the maverick, I think it is worth waiting for. But if there’s something else out there equally interesting to you - cut ties and run the other way. There’s no loyalty on Fords side of the fence so don’t give them more ground than they deserve.

 

[NNJGUY]

What I am trying to say there are many dealers that seem to not be receiving any allocations at all regardless of model or build options. They are simply be passed over week after week. It almost appears as if Ford is trying to force some dealers out of business.

Hopefully though I doubt it, maybe Ford is punishing that dealer for doing ADM?

 

[pxpaulx]

I would disagree here. A July 1 order should be delivered regardless of what was ordered.

I ordered mine in October of 21. My ordering dealer had several Mavericks at that time. One was a Lariat , lux, moon roof, loaded, including SIBL and Tri Fold hard tonneau. Asked if would be interested in that one. Knowing I was a A/Z plan customer.

Regardless a July I order should be in the customers hands long ago. Don't care what the options are.

You can care or not, but that is just not how manufacturing works on a large scale. We aren't talking about building an Iphone, where Apple uses a half dozen suppliers that they probably also own and can better control the flow of parts.

There are dozens of independent manufacturers making what amounts to thousands of parts, all of which have to be inventoried and managed to determine what, exactly, can be built any given week. There is a significant amount of management of all of this process, planned as far in advance as possible, but ultimately subject to supply chain issues, of which there are MANY more than would have occurred in the past.

 

[Pickles]

You are reading waaaaay to much into this Lugnut. Your originally premise that Ford is doing this on purpose to punish/put dealers out of business is both a fabrication and libelous.

Forget the Maverick, nobody has any stock, certainly nowhere near what is typical, that’s why the used car market is on fire and they can ask for an ADM on what they do have.

Could they have handled the place in line/order process better? Most likely. But that still doesn’t take into account constraints. There would have always been folks skipped out of necessity. This was known for months.

This. Exactly this. Nobody at ford is trying to hurt us personally lol are constraints the path of least resistence? Probably. But its just business. Its not a purposeful slight on certain buyers. Especially since its more expensive builds that are being held up.
At the end of the day, the best option for profit for ford would be to produce all the orders as quickly as possible since none of us pay until we have keys lol so the conspiracy theories are… well… i dunno a nice word to describe them lol

 

[DryHeat]

There are a large number of dealers with dozens of orders on their books who have yet to receive even one retail allocation. Is there anybody that can convince me I am wrong?

I've asked this before but I'll try again. How do we (or you) know that "a large number of dealers" have not received "even one retail allocation"?

But, no, I can't convince you that you are wrong. I don't claim to have access to any information about how many dealers have received at least one allocation. But it seems that you do. So I'm wondering if you can help me with how widespread that problem is.

Again, I'm not saying it's not true. It could be. I'm just saying it doesn't match up with what I'm seeing. Every dealer here in Tucson has received Mavericks, and even my tiny dealer up in Oracle has received a few.

If there are dealers who haven't received any, I wonder why. Are they being singled out by Ford (as you suggest)? Or did they just not understand the ordering process and screwed up the orders? Or something else?

 

[Lugnut]

I've asked this before but I'll try again. How do we (or you) know that "a large number of dealers" have not received "even one retail allocation"?

But, no, I can't convince you that you are wrong. I don't claim to have access to any information about how many dealers have received at least one allocation. But it seems that you do. So I'm wondering if you can help me with how widespread that problem is.

Again, I'm not saying it's not true. It could be. I'm just saying it doesn't match up with what I'm seeing. Every dealer here in Tucson has received Mavericks, and even my tiny dealer up in Oracle has received a few.

If there are dealers who haven't received any, I wonder why. Are they being singled out by Ford (as you suggest)? Or did they just not understand the ordering process and screwed up the orders? Or something else?
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I've asked this before but I'll try again. How do we (or you) know that "a large number of dealers" have not received "even one retail allocation"?

But, no, I can't convince you that you are wrong. I don't claim to have access to any information about how many dealers have received at least one allocation. But it seems that you do. So I'm wondering if you can help me with how widespread that problem is.

Again, I'm not saying it's not true. It could be. I'm just saying it doesn't match up with what I'm seeing. Every dealer here in Tucson has received Mavericks, and even my tiny dealer up in Oracle has received a few.

If there are dealers who haven't received any, I wonder why. Are they being singled out by Ford (as you suggest)? Or did they just not understand the ordering process and screwed up the orders? Or something else?

The dealer I ordered from has so far only received the 1 dealer stock allotment. They have yet to get a retail order delivered. Of the other 2 dealerships near me 1 has received there 1 dealer stock allotment and nothing else, the other one is still waiting for there first delivery.

 

[YOBY]

You can care or not, but that is just not how manufacturing works on a large scale. We aren't talking about building an Iphone, where Apple uses a half dozen suppliers that they probably also own and can better control the flow of parts.

There are dozens of independent manufacturers making what amounts to thousands of parts, all of which have to be inventoried and managed to determine what, exactly, can be built any given week. There is a significant amount of management of all of this process, planned as far in advance as possible, but ultimately subject to supply chain issues, of which there are MANY more than would have occurred in the past.

I see what you mean. My daughter has been doing her homework and checking on dealers with allocations so she can get her order in for baby formula.

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