Ford execs say they made a mistake when they replaced human engineers with AI

[MetalThunder]

AI is garbage, a huge waste of money and electricity, who didn’t see that coming?

LOL Quite a lot of folks holding their cell phones constantly and not having a grip on reality. You have to question any push for any technology that wants to remove humans from the equation - Who made Who ?



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[James K]

Interesting read.

Ford execs say they made a mistake when they replaced human engineers with AI
Ford admits AI couldn't replace experienced engineers, rehiring veterans to improve quality and cut recall costs.

https://www.neowin.net/news/ford-ex...e-when-they-replaced-human-engineers-with-ai/

Think about it: Artificial Intelligence. What does artificial mean? Therefore, we have "not the real thing intelligence".

 

[James K]

I love how you think companies don’t pay to rank higher in AI search results, as if that changed from the old fashion versions.


Companies aren’t spending billions on AI for nothing, the return will be the ability to dump millions of humans. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. Taking over no, replacing as many human workers as possible, yes on all counts.

Only until AI organizes. Then companies will bring humans back to break the strikes. My printer is already printing signs that read "On Strike, Unfair wattage".

 

[James K]

the AI price hikes are coming. they can't operate at a loss forever. and oh man it's going to be quite the crash for the US economy.

You mean the worlds 'leading economy as judged by FIAT currency? Say it's not so.

 

[Blue_Max]

A perspective on AI:


Despite the URL name, this is not political content. It's an interview with an author who wrote a book about dealing with AI.

 

[James K]

There are opportunities to exploit ai's behaviors. I am not talking about hacking. I am talking about knowing that a company is going to use it for a task, knowing that ai will push that task no more than what history provides as an average. I am saying that if that company is going to use ai, they give away their result.

Good statement. I'm not convinced AI will do anything but pick the low hanging fruit.

 

[Hootbro]

They integrated a bunch of AI tools into our engineering disposition applications that deal with manufacturing issues with the majority of them being either rework or repair dispositions. Rework is pretty straight forward and even for a human engineer, it is a lot of cut and paste of canned dispositions. Repair is a bit more nuanced as it usually involves repairing a part that is not 100% to print but within acceptable limits for product acceptance.

Became apparent that the AI tools will flat out just make shit up when it does not understand something. Company is at the phase of they have spent so much they are trying to make it work at all cost but it is slowly becoming a noose around their neck as billing hours are up just having a human review and correct the garbage it is putting out is starting to affect how our customers view us and writing is on the wall the AI stuff will get the heave ho here pretty soon to save face with our customers.

 

[James K]

Agree 100%. I worked for 15 years as an auditor before diverting into the nuts and bolts IT world (systems design, testing, technical writing,, training, etc.). There are really two kinds of audits, AI can do a great job of checking all the numbers and compliance with the rules and regulations.
But there is much more to auditing than that. Human eyes and brains are essential for the other kind of audit, where you use your instincts and experience to find things that AI would just not notice. Follow your nose to sniff out the fraud, corruption and irregularities.

Good perspective. While I don't claim to understand AI, it seems to me that it's limited to what's known and what it is fed. I'm waiting for someone to feed it the poison pill. Can one AI infect another?

 

[James K]

They integrated a bunch of AI tools into our engineering disposition applications that deal with manufacturing issues with the majority of them being either rework or repair dispositions. Rework is pretty straight forward and even for a human engineer, it is a lot of cut and paste of canned dispositions. Repair is a bit more nuanced as it usually involves repairing a part that is not 100% to print but within acceptable limits for product acceptance.

Became apparent that the AI tools will flat out just make shit up when it does not understand something. Company is at the phase of they have spent so much they are trying to make it work at all cost but it is slowly becoming a noose around their neck as billing hours are up just having a human review and correct the garbage it is putting out is starting to affect how our customers view us and writing is on the wall the AI stuff will get the heave ho here pretty soon to save face with our customers.

Hey, remember DOS and GIGO?

 

[El Kabong]

I do !
Hydrogen was a great idea and would have been a major
contributor/supplement to oil and EV tech.
Big oil killed that idea.

Wait a sec, @Cherokee , I doubt that. Hydrogen is a clusterfark as a fuel. Making it, storing it, transporting and distributing, and finally using it - all that is far too fiddly.

At least car fires would be over fairly quick.

Did you know the only exhaust from the hydrogen engines was H2O !

Um that’s water for the twat waffles.

As a twat waffle I heartily endorse that last statement.

 

[A112358]

But it does collect your data, track you and have security vulnerabilities. No thanks.

Not if you use a VPN in front of it.

 

[A112358]

Only until AI organizes. ...

Then we get SkyNet.

 

[A112358]

Hey, remember DOS and GIGO?

I'm old enough to have used mainframes as big as a two-car garage, and punch cards.

 

[sajohnson]

I'm old enough to have used mainframes as big as a two-car garage, and punch cards.

We had punch card machines in high school. I believe the idea was that using them would give kids a marketable skill. I think they fell out of use by the time we graduated.

 

[El Kabong]

I'm old enough to have used mainframes as big as a two-car garage, and punch cards.

We had punch card machines in high school. I believe the idea was that using them would give kids a marketable skill. I think they fell out of use by the time we graduated.

I literally have in front of me a postage-stamp sized microcontroller that has built-in wireless, bluetooth, dual 240Mhz CPUs, and 8MB of RAM and data storage space each. Pic related.

Did you imagine then what we have now?

The evolution of technology marches onwards.

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