maverick xlt audio upgrade.. yet another question

[Krazor8]

i dont have the b and o system, do i need load generating devices? im running the speaker to an aftermarket amp. with a puzu c7 controller the rca output.

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[Carlitos_92]

Can the aftermarket amp you’re using do that? For example, the Kicker Key amps have a “radio detect” setting that will mimic a speaker load on the high level inputs.

If the amp you are feeding with speaker outputs cannot do that, you might need to add inline devices like you mention.

 

[Krazor8]

Can the aftermarket amp you’re using do that? For example, the Kicker Key amps have a “radio detect” setting that will mimic a speaker load on the high level inputs.

If the amp you are feeding with speaker outputs cannot do that, you might need to add inline devices like you mention.

idk, im using a puzu c7 as my dsp... since i do not want to do any kinda of cutting on the oem harness, and i got the puzu c7 for free(but got it but car totaled before install). basically gonna use the puzu for the rca, tap into its wireing harness for each door speaker to the 4 channel amp.

 

[Carlitos_92]

idk, im using a puzu c7 as my dsp... since i do not want to do any kinda of cutting on the oem harness, and i got the puzu c7 for free(but got it but car totaled before install). basically gonna use the puzu for the rca, tap into its wireing harness for each door speaker to the 4 channel amp.

Ok, well I don't know anything about any of those devices, so whichever one you are connecting the high-level inputs to, you're going to have to read the manual.

 

[rallyshark]

I'm pretty sure no load generating devices are needed with the Puzu. Load generating devices are like LOCs. They usually aren't needed on these trucks, assuming your DSP/Amps can handle speaker level inputs. The devices with high level inputs use resistors to lower the signal, which generate load seen by the truck's ACM.

 

[Carlitos_92]

I'm pretty sure no load generating devices are needed with the Puzu. Load generating devices are like LOCs. They usually aren't needed on these trucks, assuming your DSP/Amps can handle speaker level inputs. The devices with high level inputs use resistors to lower the signal, which generate load seen by the truck's ACM.

Load generating devices are passive resistors - nothing like LOCs. If anything, it's more like the resistors we sometimes connect to aftermarket turn-signal LEDs to keep them from hyperflashing - or more specific to Mavericks - the truck thinking a bulb is out.

The truck needs to see a certain impedance at the speaker outputs, or else it thinks there is a wiring fault. Not all amps/signal processors necessarily provide enough resistance, which is why I recommended OP look at the documentation of whatever device is getting the high-level signal to see if it has a switchable setting. I don't have any familiarity with Puzu, but it may or may not have that. If it doesn't, it's a crapshoot whether it will need additional load generating devices.

Searching the forum for posts using the exact Puzu component may shed some light on what others have run into.

 

[Krazor8]

Load generating devices are passive resistors - nothing like LOCs. If anything, it's more like the resistors we sometimes connect to aftermarket turn-signal LEDs to keep them from hyperflashing - or more specific to Mavericks - the truck thinking a bulb is out.

The truck needs to see a certain impedance at the speaker outputs, or else it thinks there is a wiring fault. Not all amps/signal processors necessarily provide enough resistance, which is why I recommended OP look at the documentation of whatever device is getting the high-level signal to see if it has a switchable setting. I don't have any familiarity with Puzu, but it may or may not have that. If it doesn't, it's a crapshoot whether it will need additional load generating devices.

Searching the forum for posts using the exact Puzu component may shed some light on what others have run into.

Yea, I cant find anything about it in the manual, forums, or searching google in regards to the load generating. So i just bit the bullet and order the jl audio 86 dsp with the load generating device for it, cost more, but better peace of mind

 

[rallyshark]

I was typing a long descriptive response, but @Krazor8 just made that statement moot with the news of the JL Fix 86, lol. The JL is a superior product to the Puzu anyway, so you'll probably be happier with it. FWIW, there are a lot of people on here running the Puzu and other brands of DSP without load generators. I've been running an Audio Dynamics DSP for 2 years on mine now, and have a few Audiocontrol load generators sitting in the drawer that I never needed...

 

[Carlitos_92]

FWIW, there are a lot of people on here running the Puzu and other brands of DSP without load generators.

That’s the info I didn’t have, thanks.

Crutchfield tried to sell me their AudioControl load generators even though they knew the amp I bought (FROM THEM) didn't need any.

Agree on the JL. Lots of people seem to like Puzu, but they don’t at all come across as a “top-tier” brand lol.

 

[rallyshark]

That’s the info I didn’t have, thanks.

Crutchfield tried to sell me their AudioControl load generators even though they knew the amp I bought (FROM THEM) didn't need any.

Agree on the JL. Lots of people seem to like Puzu, but they don’t at all come across as a “top-tier” brand lol.

I bought some, since it was the "early days" of Maverick audio upgrades 2 years ago, and didn't know if I'd need them or not. The Puzus aren't bad per say, and can be surprisingly good if the person installing them knows how to tune properly, but... The JL is most certainly better and easier to get a solid base tune into. The biggest things people can do with these mavericks is set the factory EQ to flat with forscan, and also learn time alignment/phase. Time alignment/phase is HUGE if ya get it right in the DSP. That's getting into the weeds for most folks, but that JL will handle all of that for you, so win win in this case!

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