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But we will never get back to that if we try to manufacture everything in country. This has been shown in countless studies. Please take an econ class or two and pay attention. You are living in a fantasy world.
Evidently I know more than you do on this subject.
I’m watching for US steel to get up again.

I know we can’t make everything but making aftermarket wheels cost more is not a concern of mine. If someone can’t afford a need that needs attention.
Shiny new wheels not so important.
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Evidently I know more than you do on this subject.
I’m watching for US steel to get up again.

I know we can’t make everything but making aftermarket wheels cost more is not a concern of mine. If someone can’t afford a need that needs attention.
Shiny new wheels not so important.
The fact that you think that since US steel went up for now is an indication that bringing back manufacturing to the states would reduce costs and improve they standard of living is laughable.
 

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Well the impact is universal with import taxation, the increased costs are an added friction to your economy, and the result of the wide ranging increased cost is a reduction in economic activity across your entire economy. The larger the tax, the larger the drag on the economy becomes as disposable incomes dwindle. You'll make more money on each unit of a manufactured good, but you'll sell far less as your economy contracts.
 

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The fact that you think that since US steel went up for now is an indication that bringing back manufacturing to the states would reduce costs and improve they standard of living is laughable.
Wow ok you’re right and all our economic history and lessons are all wrong. Your right,
I bow to your wisdom.

Let’s keep buying everything from other countries. We can support their economy’s with our hard earned money.
That’s obviously a better solution.
I’ll never buy American again.
Sad:(

Tesla makes as many of its parts here as possible. Actually most of the parts excluding tires and likely a few other things.
Elon did this in the great state of Texas.

He made enough money to build rockets and viable robots.
I think that alone would tell any intelligent person that what I speak of and what POTUS is doing is the right path.
 
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I think it's ok to have pride in what your country makes, but we just make different stuff now. Most of our stuff we make in our economy is higher value/higher profit service things, because we are a highly developed economy. Manufacturing is a low margin business and you don't get venture capital beating your door down because they aren't going to get any return making aluminum wheels in your US factory.

It's just not as exciting to say buy American software/video games/AI/financial services. But, it's the bulk of our economy because only the most highly developed economies can do that high value work and reap the rewards from it. Manufacturing can be done anywhere it's cheapest.
 

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Ok make it here make it cheaper because of no overseas shipping fees.
If paying Americans to work is bad we are doomed.
How about we make all manufacturing automated.
That way the labor force can keep eating pizza and playing video games :XD
Oh wait, that’s one of the reasons we are in such poor health.
Couch potato, an unknown effect of buying overseas.
:’P
 

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Until economic enslavement is reached then prices will be raised to more than what can be imagined.
Then don’t buy that stuff. Put them out of business easy peasy.
Life will go on if someone can’t buy shiny new wheels.
 

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Easy, suspend the internet. That will force all the couch potato’s to go find something to do.
:’P
Got the uh, guy with the guy falks mask who's found time for nearly 1,500 forum post in 6 months telling people to get off the internets and go find factory jobs? I guess irony is truly dead.

The Kawasaki plant near me that builds rail cars is always hiring. Something like an $18 starting wage to get hired out through a shell company that has terrible benefits. These are not good paying union jobs that will take care of you for trading away your body over years of hard, monotonous work.
 

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We are doomed, well anyone that has to sell their labor is doomed, anyways. Over time, the economy will resemble more and more a situation like Russia, which I suppose is the desired outcome. Most people will be far poorer, and we'll make far less total volume of stuff. These changes don't matter to for example a wealthy oligarch, they spend almost none of their money on physical goods as a percentage of wealth. So if Bezo's next yacht costs 20 times more money, it won't matter at all. The fact that we wont be making smaller boats because no one else can afford a 20x more expensive boat is of no real consequence from that perspective.
 
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That way the labor force can keep eating pizza and playing video games :XD
Oh wait, that’s one of the reasons we are in such poor health.
Couch potato, an unknown effect of buying overseas.
:’P
where are you getting these canned responses? Oh wait thats right, TV. Well at least thats still made in America but not really helping much as its becoming a replacement for education to some.
 
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Wow ok you’re right and all our economic history and lessons are all wrong. Your right,
I bow to your wisdom.

Let’s keep buying everything from other countries. We can support their economy’s with our hard earned money.
That’s obviously a better solution.
I’ll never buy American again.
Sad:(

Tesla makes as many of its parts here as possible. Actually most of the parts excluding tires and likely a few other things.
Elon did this in the great state of Texas.

He made enough money to build rockets and viable robots.
I think that alone would tell any intelligent person that what I speak of and what POTUS is doing is the right path.
Wow, you are unhinged. I am sorry you are having trouble with this and are either not reading other posts or are just incapable of understanding them.

Facts don't care about your feelings.
 

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Got the uh, guy with the guy falks mask who's found time for nearly 1,500 forum post in 6 months telling people to get off the internets and go find factory jobs? I guess irony is truly dead.

The Kawasaki plant near me that builds rail cars is always hiring. Something like an $18 starting wage to get hired out through a shell company that has terrible benefits. These are not good paying union jobs that will take care of you for trading away your body over years of hard, monotonous work.
Finally some truth.
 

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Finally some truth.
These people do not care about the truth. They only seem to care about what their feelings and fox news tells them. It is a lost cause. But don't worry. Due to recent events they probably won't make to the next election...
 

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I think it's ok to have pride in what your country makes, but we just make different stuff now. Most of our stuff we make in our economy is higher value/higher profit service things, because we are a highly developed economy. Manufacturing is a low margin business and you don't get venture capital beating your door down because they aren't going to get any return making aluminum wheels in your US factory.

It's just not as exciting to say buy American software/video games/AI/financial services. But, it's the bulk of our economy because only the most highly developed economies can do that high value work and reap the rewards from it. Manufacturing can be done anywhere it's cheapest.
Heady -- this is the most accurate narrative I've read (and what I've been attempting to explain to others all along)...the capital side [private equity, venture capital, internal CAPEX expansion] is the cog this administration ignores purposefully and deliberately. Why would Goldman, Blackrock, JPMorgan Chase, etc. want to invest surplus funds into lower-margined manufacturing service lines or industries without adjusting their effective returns accordingly?
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