Engineering a Maverick bolt-on 4-piston front brake caliper kit

[Robot-Wrangler]

Howdy,

I have started work on a bolt-on four-piston caliper front brake kit for Maverick pickups. My truck will be lifted with the Rough Country 2.5" full suspension system and I'm running 235/75R17 tires with OEM steel wheels. HEL is supplying 2" longer custom brake lines. I have not decided on front rotors as of yet. What do y'all think? Sorry no picks of the lift kit as it's getting too cold tonight to go out for photos.

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[A.Bursell]

Wondering what the brakes on the Lobo look like and if they would transfer to other models.

But if yours will fit behind 17" wheels it may have an advantage.

 

[Robot-Wrangler]

This week I'll replace the caliper steel bolts that are not zinc plated. I have to check the factory torque spec as well. My prototype calipers are Chinese Brembo clones with OE Brembo ceramic pads. I may avoid potential liability by making a parts list for DIY versus building retail kits. I'll list both the Brembo p/n's and the source for the clones.

 

[colinl]

What is your goal, here? Specifically for your truck, and I guess more broadly for anyone else doing such a swap?

 

[Cherokee]

Why ? My stock brakes feel powerful and smooth all the way to antilock ?
Whats the benefit ?

 

[Robot-Wrangler]

What is your goal, here? Specifically for your truck, and I guess more broadly for anyone else doing such a swap?

When I install much larger diameter tires and tow or haul at the maximum ratings, coming down mountains, I want to be able to have smooth and controlled braking.

It's a performance upgrade similar to the Maverick Lobo system. Ford engineers know that this is a superior braking setup when these trucks are pushed to their limits. That is why the Lobo has four piston calipers on the front.

It's reported that Lobo also has a larger diameter rotor which may require a larger diameter wheel. That's unverified information.

I wanted to offer all Maverick owners, except Lobo, the opportunity to upgrade per their needs.

 

[Robot-Wrangler]

Why ? My stock brakes feel powerful and smooth all the way to antilock ?
Whats the benefit ?

Most Maverick owners will not regularly push their truck to it's limits and will not experience brake fade. They will suffice with stock brakes for the life of their truck.

Other Maverick owners occasionally load their truck to the maximum and experience sustained hard braking down long grades. Towing also places higher demands on braking. Oversized tires and/or soft compound performance tires increase brake loading with repeated hard braking applications.

 

[colinl]

so, you haven't yet tested your truck in those driving situations and found out whether it performs adequately or not and you instead make assumptions that spending money must mean they're going to perform better.

first of all, buying any chinese knock-off stuff is dodgy, but any safety thing like brakes I would highly advise against. besides the obvious issue that if they fail you could die, there's also no recourse against purchases made in china or chinese-made products in general if you buy it on amazon, ebay, etc.

your survivors wouldn't even be able to sue them.

if you change the front brakes you will likely change the proportioning which can have a large impact on overall braking performance and especially ABS engagement.

third issue is that the first thing that should be done if you actually did find the stock brake performance a bit lacking in extreme usage you should try brake pads first. the stock brake pads are likely made for moderate performance, and emphasize low-noise and low-dust. if you get a high performance sintered metal pad you'll have some noise, but you'll also gain a lot of fade resistance.

...and you'll possibly lose some initial bite when the brakes are cold, but fortunately you can just swap the pads back to stock easily enough, unlike changing the calipers.

 

[fstlan3]

When I install much larger diameter tires and tow or haul at the maximum ratings, coming down mountains, I want to be able to have smooth and controlled braking.

It's a performance upgrade similar to the Maverick Lobo system. Ford engineers know that this is a superior braking setup when these trucks are pushed to their limits. That is why the Lobo has four piston calipers on the front.

It's reported that Lobo also has a larger diameter rotor which may require a larger diameter wheel. That's unverified information.

I wanted to offer all Maverick owners, except Lobo, the opportunity to upgrade per their needs.

The Lobo has dual piston front calipers. I’ve already provided part information on another post if you’re interested.

 

[Robot-Wrangler]

The Lobo has dual piston front calipers. I’ve already provided part information on another post if you’re interested.

Thanks capecruiser

 

[Robot-Wrangler]

The Lobo has dual piston front calipers. I’ve already provided part information on another post if you’re interested.

Thanks fstlan3

 

[Robot-Wrangler]

so, you haven't yet tested your truck in those driving situations and found out whether it performs adequately or not and you instead make assumptions that spending money must mean they're going to perform better.

first of all, buying any chinese knock-off stuff is dodgy, but any safety thing like brakes I would highly advise against. besides the obvious issue that if they fail you could die, there's also no recourse against purchases made in china or chinese-made products in general if you buy it on amazon, ebay, etc.

your survivors wouldn't even be able to sue them.

if you change the front brakes you will likely change the proportioning which can have a large impact on overall braking performance and especially ABS engagement.

third issue is that the first thing that should be done if you actually did find the stock brake performance a bit lacking in extreme usage you should try brake pads first. the stock brake pads are likely made for moderate performance, and emphasize low-noise and low-dust. if you get a high performance sintered metal pad you'll have some noise, but you'll also gain a lot of fade resistance.

...and you'll possibly lose some initial bite when the brakes are cold, but fortunately you can just swap the pads back to stock easily enough, unlike changing the calipers.

Sometimes when you buy replacement parts they are knock offs. I didn't intentionally choose knock off parts. Have you considered a career as a professional nag? You are pretty good at it.

 

[colinl]

Sometimes when you buy replacement parts they are knock offs. I didn't intentionally choose knock off parts. Have you considered a career as a professional nag? You are pretty good at it.

Some people would just say it's a stupid idea. I explained in great detail.

 

[Robot-Wrangler]

Some people would just say it's a stupid idea. I explained in great detail.

Thank you for your concerns. I'll let y'all know how it turns out. Have a nice day!

 

[Automan21]

The Lobo has dual piston front calipers. I’ve already provided part information on another post if you’re interested.

Where is the link for said info on parts?

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