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Will there be bigger lift kits later on?
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Define bigger? Its unibody construction and there are a limits. If you're looking for a crazy lift a ranger or Tacoma might meet your needs better
 
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Define bigger? Its unibody construction and there are a limits. If you're looking for a crazy lift a ranger or Tacoma might meet your needs better
Well I’m thinking maybe around 4 inch lift instead of the 2 that’s out
 

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Well I’m thinking maybe around 4 inch lift instead of the 2 that’s out
I doubt it but people will do it. Forget all the unibody naysayers, anything can be lifted. Its just a matter of it being worth it to a user and then being worth it to a seller to produce. 2.5" is the current max lift. However with the upgraded CVs on the Tremor I would bet that there will be a 3" kit available for the base AWD(which will be less on the Tremor). How soon? Hard to say. It would only be guessing.

As for how much these can be lifted. Well for one the point of lifting is to increase wheel clearance to increase tire size, to increase ground clearance. The issue with cars, trucks, and anything else is a closed fender design. Only so big of a tire will fit in the Mavericks wheel well when the suspension is compressed. Jeeps(real ones) dont have this problem as bad because their fenders are angled out and more open. So lets say, according to what people have fit with fender modifications and lift kits, that 33" is going to be the biggest tire possible for the most extreme Maverick. In the front there is a strut flange clearance issue. So depending on what the Tremors strut body is like, the only way to clear that large of a tire is to modify the lower strut mount. Not too bad, but fabricator level welding will be needed. That could be possible for a company to do either by sending them your struts, or buying new modified ones from them. So thats gonna be a big cost factor there. Then you have the suspension geometry. To go high enough to clear the 33s from the body, you will need to drop the front subframe, to correct the geometry so it doesnt handle like a wacky bumper car. A subframe drop will also require the motor to be lowered with the transaxle. So you are looking at revised motor mounts, a whole slew of plumbing, exhaust, and electrical drop brackets. All fabricated custom pieces and many of them. And they will void the warranty so I wouldnt expect anything like this until the first gen mavericks are about 4-5 years old atleast. The rear is not as hard to lift since it doesnt use a strut. But it will need the diff and suspension mounts lowered much like the front end of a common toyota or chevy.

Basically we can get 2" possibly 3" lifts for under $1000, some half that price. But to go to a 4-6" lift (and that is only if Maverick offroading really takes off like XJs or something), it will likely start at something like $2500 for the hardware and you buy the springs. $5-6000 for high quality shocks and springs included. Look at the Flatout guys. Theirs is still only 2-3" and costs $2500.

You have to have alot of popularity for people to buy enough of these for companies to have the desire to develop them. It isnt likely, but it is possible. There will be people over the next 20 years doing stuff like this but it will be forum guys and gals doing it and we will have to coax them into making a small run of identical parts for us to buy. AMC Eagle people have gone through the same thing, demand has since fizzled out as the cars rusted away, now their forum is full of rumors of people who once made this or that work this way.

The one thing I will say about the Bronco Sport(our cousin in mettle) is that I havent seen a unibody commuter platform with this much car roots be so capable at offroading as the AMC Eagle was. The SX4 literally would follow CJs almost anywhere and the wagons were ultimate snow machines of thier day. All in a comfy seat. The Eagle platform was literally a test bed of possiblilites that would be the Jeep XJ and to some degree ZJ. Those 2 vehicles became the best of the best of the best in affordable upgradeable durable offroading. The XJ is the father of the magic wheelbase of rock crawling. The ZJ is known for luxury car comfort aswell as the ability to no die while flying higher most raptors dream at fairgrounds across the country.

If Ford is serious about dominating the offroad market, they will continue build this platform and it could have a chance at being known as a great budget offroader. But it will take a little time. For the Jeeps it took about a decade. Time will tell.
 
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I doubt it but people will do it. Forget all the unibody naysayers, anything can be lifted. Its just a matter of it being worth it to a user and then being worth it to a seller to produce. 2.5" is the current max lift. However with the upgraded CVs on the Tremor I would bet that there will be a 3" kit available for the base AWD(which will be less on the Tremor). How soon? Hard to say. It would only be guessing.

As for how much these can be lifted. Well for one the point of lifting is to increase wheel clearance to increase tire size, to increase ground clearance. The issue with cars, trucks, and anything else is a closed fender design. Only so big of a tire will fit in the Mavericks wheel well when the suspension is compressed. Jeeps(real ones) dont have this problem as bad because their fenders are angled out and more open. So lets say, according to what people have fit with fender modifications and lift kits, that 33" is going to be the biggest tire possible for the most extreme Maverick. In the front there is a strut flange clearance issue. So depending on what the Tremors strut body is like, the only way to clear that large of a tire is to modify the lower strut mount. Not too bad, but fabricator level welding will be needed. That could be possible for a company to do either by sending them your struts, or buying new modified ones from them. So thats gonna be a big cost factor there. Then you have the suspension geometry. To go high enough to clear the 33s from the body, you will need to drop the front subframe, to correct the geometry so it doesnt handle like a wacky bumper car. A subframe drop will also require the motor to be lowered with the transaxle. So you are looking at revised motor mounts, a whole slew of plumbing, exhaust, and electrical drop brackets. All fabricated custom pieces and many of them. And they will void the warranty so I wouldnt expect anything like this until the first gen mavericks are about 4-5 years old atleast. The rear is not as hard to lift since it doesnt use a strut. But it will need the diff and suspension mounts lowered much like the front end of a common toyota or chevy.

Basically we can get 2" possibly 3" lifts for under $1000, some half that price. But to go to a 4-6" lift (and that is only if Maverick offroading really takes off like XJs or something), it will likely start at something like $2500 for the hardware and you buy the springs. $5-6000 for high quality shocks and springs included. Look at the Flatout guys. Theirs is still only 2-3" and costs $2500.

You have to have alot of popularity for people to buy enough of these for companies to have the desire to develop them. It isnt likely, but it is possible. There will be people over the next 20 years doing stuff like this but it will be forum guys and gals doing it and we will have to coax them into making a small run of identical parts for us to buy. AMC Eagle people have gone through the same thing, demand has since fizzled out as the cars rusted away, now their forum is full of rumors of people who once made this or that work this way.

The one thing I will say about the Bronco Sport(our cousin in mettle) is that I havent seen a unibody commuter platform with this much car roots be so capable at offroading as the AMC Eagle was. The SX4 literally would follow CJs almost anywhere and the wagons were ultimate snow machines of thier day. All in a comfy seat. The Eagle platform was literally a test bed of possiblilites that would be the Jeep XJ and to some degree ZJ. Those 2 vehicles became the best of the best of the best in affordable upgradeable durable offroading. The XJ is the father of the magic wheelbase of rock crawling. The ZJ is known for luxury car comfort aswell as the ability to no die while flying higher most raptors dream at fairgrounds across the country.

If Ford is serious about dominating the offroad market, they will continue build this platform and it could have a chance at being known as a great budget offroader. But it will take a little time. For the Jeeps it took about a decade. Time will tell.
Thank you this helped a lot, I didn’t know a good but of that information.
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