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[vinnymac]

Looking to make a few more pounds of boost with the 2023 maverick 2.0 AWD without breaking the bank. Any help would be much appreciated tks VP

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[710-oil-614]

Cobb or Livernois tuner - take your pick both are proven. Livernois might have a little more proven history with Ford but you can't go wrong with either one.

Not sure what is considered breaking the bank but $599 for either one which will net you around 45hp/45ft lb of torque with a mild 93 tune is about the best bang for your buck you'll find.

https://www.livernoismotorsports.co...2-2023-ford-maverick-2-0-turbo-ecoboost-tuner

 

[vinnymac]

Cobb or Livernois tuner - take your pick both are proven. Livernois might have a little more proven history with Ford but you can't go wrong with either one.

Not sure what is considered breaking the bank but $599 for either one which will net you around 45hp/45ft lb of torque with a mild 93 tune is about the best bang for your buck you'll find.

https://www.livernoismotorsports.co...2-2023-ford-maverick-2-0-turbo-ecoboost-tuner

Are you using either product’s on your veh

 

[vinnymac]

Are you using either product’s on your veh

Oh and thanks for the info

 

[710-oil-614]

Are you using either product’s on your veh

Not currently on my Maverick but I have seen the Livernois tune in action on a friend's F-150 with the 3.5EB and it was impressive.

I plan to wait for my 10k mile oil change and analysis before purchasing.

 

[Rileyotta]

Not currently on my Maverick but I have seen the Livernois tune in action on a friend's F-150 with the 3.5EB and it was impressive.

I plan to wait for my 10k mile oil change and analysis before purchasing.

Apologies for my lack of knowledge, but what is the oil analysis for and what affect would it have on your decision to tune/mod your engine?

 

[710-oil-614]

Apologies for my lack of knowledge, but what is the oil analysis for and what affect would it have on your decision to tune/mod your engine?

Here is a blurb from Blackstone Labs:

Basically - I'd like a clean bill of health on the engine before I do something that will give Ford an easy out if a warranty issue would occur.

I've not had great success with Ford on any warranty claim big or small and if the analysis would show that the engine is anything less than expected I will hold off on the Livernois tune to keep the warranty. The tune touches the transmission module as well as the engine so it would cover a significant portion of the drivetrain should Ford make a fuss about.

That said - I do not expect any issues with the 10k analysis - and I anticipate purchasing the Livernois tune shortly after.

 

[Rileyotta]

Here is a blurb from Blackstone Labs:

Basically - I'd like a clean bill of health on the engine before I do something that will give Ford an easy out if a warranty issue would occur.

I've not had great success with Ford on any warranty claim big or small and if the analysis would show that the engine is anything less than expected I will hold off on the Livernois tune to keep the warranty. The tune touches the transmission module as well as the engine so it would cover a significant portion of the drivetrain should Ford make a fuss about.

That said - I do not expect any issues with the 10k analysis - and I anticipate purchasing the Livernois tune shortly after.

Thank you very much for the education. I currently have 26k in kilometers on my Mav, and my last vehicle was a nightmare due to engine issues, so I am very interested in getting an oil analysis given this information.
Thank you again. Have a happy new year

 

[RedRider]

Here is a blurb from Blackstone Labs:

Basically - I'd like a clean bill of health on the engine before I do something that will give Ford an easy out if a warranty issue would occur.

I've not had great success with Ford on any warranty claim big or small and if the analysis would show that the engine is anything less than expected I will hold off on the Livernois tune to keep the warranty. The tune touches the transmission module as well as the engine so it would cover a significant portion of the drivetrain should Ford make a fuss about.

That said - I do not expect any issues with the 10k analysis - and I anticipate purchasing the Livernois tune shortly after.

That's a joke, right? Doing what you want to do invalidates any possible use of warranty on the whole drivetrain, not just the engine.

 

[710-oil-614]

That's a joke, right? Doing what you want to do invalidates any possible use of warranty on the whole drivetrain, not just the engine.

I don't understand your comment? I just stated that flashing the Livernois tune would essentially invalidate my engine and transmission warranty, and that it would give Ford an easy pass to deny any claims.

As drivetrain involves much more than the engine and transmission - CV axles, differentials primarily - it should not invalidate the warranty for these parts.

Don't be so contrarian my friend.

 

[Decayed]

That's a joke, right? Doing what you want to do invalidates any possible use of warranty on the whole drivetrain, not just the engine.

Agreed. They are looking for an excuse, any excuse to invalidate the warranty. And they will do it. This is really what the decision to mod comes down to.

 

[SlowTime2011]

I have the Livernois 93 tune on my XLT for the past several months. Big improvement, the best bang for the buck. Look up Fast Mavericks for what they make. They are a member here and have a lot of information on their Facebook group.

A thing to consider is a downpipe. Doesn't necessarily make more boost but allows for it to build quicker. It did on our WRX and it was a noticeable improvement on the street.

 

[710-oil-614]

I have the Livernois 93 tune on my XLT for the past several months. Big improvement, the best bang for the buck. Look up Fast Mavericks for what they make. They are a member here and have a lot of information on their Facebook group.

A thing to consider is a downpipe. Doesn't necessarily make more boost but allows for it to build quicker. It did on our WRX and it was a noticeable improvement on the street.

You've enjoyed the Livernois tune? I'm a fairly mild driver but coming from a Model 3 I do want for a little extra power. I'm interested in them removing the 4th (or 5th) gear lockout and it just making the engine and transmission work better together.

Any noticeable drop in fuel economy?

 

[710-oil-614]

Agreed. They are looking for an excuse, any excuse to invalidate the warranty. And they will do it. This is really what the decision to mod comes down to.

I agree but they also denied all of my warranty claims on a brand new, stock, Bronco so you don't need to mod your vehicle for Ford to squirm out of any responsibility. I have a good relationship with my dealer too and they were mostly helpful in attempting to get work covered under warranty but Ford wouldn't budge.

If I get a bad CV axle like others have experienced - and my vehicle is stock besides the tune - my expectation would be that Ford will replace that CV axle under warranty as it would not be impacted by the tune itself.

Now my expectation vs. reality is a different story and given Ford's track record it would really be a crapshoot whether or not they warranty any claim regardless of modifications.

 

[RedRider]

I don't understand your comment? I just stated that flashing the Livernois tune would essentially invalidate my engine and transmission warranty, and that it would give Ford an easy pass to deny any claims.

As drivetrain involves much more than the engine and transmission - CV axles, differentials primarily - it should not invalidate the warranty for these parts.

Don't be so contrarian my friend.

Why would it not invalidate warranty? Those parts are going to see much more torque than they would with the factory tune, and they are pretty marginal at the already high torque coming out of the 2.0 engine. If you want more torque than what is already enough to spin the rubber at highway speeds, then you're going to need the heavier HF55 trans from the Transit van and the heavier halfshafts from the Tremor. Oh and don't forget the wider rubber that won't fit in the wheelwell. That's not contrarian, that's a reality check.

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