2k towing, why?

[Howard]

In many states, even a 2K trailer is required to have brakes which requires a controller being added

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[Hunters Edge]

This isn't true, at least not for the 2025+ models. The Bronco Sport with the Badlands package, which includes the dual clutch rear axle, has the highest tow rating available for that vehicle at 2700 lbs.

Lots of things go into the trailer weight rating. It could be as simple as Ford didn't find that the shock valving on the Lobo and Tremor were acceptable with a 4000 lb trailer. People have been speculating that the dual clutch rear axle is somehow inferior for towing, but there isn't any evidence for that.

Right there tells you, that you are wrong it's still limited and only 700lbs increased towing. If you are correct I'm not taking my time to research it. I did though prior to purchasing my Maverick. I really like the lockers, just couldn't deal with minimizing towing capabilities. Yeah the increased approach angle, ground clearance were also useful still that and at the time was another hit or con, a loss of 5 hwy mpg. The deal crusher was a 2000lb tow rating.

I actually would have liked 5000lb towing. I'm still hopeful Ford will beef or increase the towing capacity. If not they should be worried or concerned with new manufacturers entering that market

 

[tiktokbrainrot]

From the little I've seen it likely has a lot to do with the transmission. It's likely that the truck would tow fine BUT Ford has to warranty that.

It's the exact same transmission. All Ecoboost Mavericks use the 8f35. 99% of the time you never use 2nd gear anyway, so realistically the Lobo has different wheels, rides a tad lower, and has paddle shifters.

I’ve noticed this too, I wonder if you can force it via heavy throttle at the perfect moment but probably not, lol.

Supposedly the twin clutch RDU is the actual reason Lobo and Tremor got the lower towing rating but nobody but Ford knows for sure. I don’t see why that would be responsible given it can just be operated like the stock one if the ecu wants. Could be related to spring rates, there may be a specific requirement for stability in some circumstances. Safety is a big factor to these ratings and there’s less margin than with a BOF truck I’m sure.

It could easily be responsible, because those twin clutches are fitting into the same space as the normal rear end. That means those clutches are likely smaller then the normal one, which will compromise their ability to deliver power without slipping.

Same reason the VW golf can tow 3500 lbs in Europe, but the GTI cannot. The sportier suspension and the VAG differential cannot guarantee handling the weight without detrimental effects.

Right there tells you, that you are wrong it's still limited and only 700lbs increased towing. If you are correct I'm not taking my time to research it. I did though prior to purchasing my Maverick. I really like the lockers, just couldn't deal with minimizing towing capabilities. Yeah the increased approach angle, ground clearance were also useful still that and at the time was another hit or con, a loss of 5 hwy mpg. The deal crusher was a 2000lb tow rating.

And you are also wrong, claiming there is no config with that rear end that can handle over 2,000 lbs.

I actually would have liked 5000lb towing. I'm still hopeful Ford will beef or increase the towing capacity. If not they should be worried or concerned with new manufacturers entering that market

LMFAO WHAT competitors? The Maverick has been nearly uncontested for its life, its only true competitor bowed out, the Santa Cruz.

The only possible competitor out there is the RAM rampage, if it ever comes out, but that platform isnt rated for over 4,000 either.

 

[notfast]

Only the Lobo and Tremor have a liquid-cooled Power Transfer Unit (PTU) to prevent overheating. Consequently, these two vehicles have the RDU clutch packs that don't have liquid cooling. It would seem that the PTU is the reason for 2K tow, not the RDU??

Huh, interesting. I suppose Ford expects the Lobo and Tremor to engage AWD more often/more aggressively, necessitating the extra cooling. Probably also related to the center "diff lock" on the Tremor.

This is fascinating. Never knew it was an official standard. I always figured it was what the engineers calculated with a bit of a buffer.

Yeah, before it basically that; a calculated amount. Hence why, say, my old '85 F-250 6.9L IDI was "rated" to tow 8,600lbs. Could it technically tow that amount? Yes. Was I getting passed by anything else with an engine? Also yes.

Even with just 5,000lbs behind it, I'd have to crawl up the Grapevine or the Cajon pass at like 25mph with my foot in the carpet. 170HP and 310lb/ft of torque will do that.

I like to think the towing standard also came about to level the playing field because in the early 2000s, it seemed like every auto manufacturer would "rate" their trucks to tow 200lbs more than the others every model year.

The 4K package has the electric trailer brake controller. Physics of 4K truck towing a 4K trailer without brakes is that your stopping distance doubles because only half of the gross weight has braking rubber on the road. Trailer brakes solves that problem. The engine, transmission, RDU, etc. are plenty strong enough. It's about safety and control.

While the lack of brake controller is definitely a contributing factor, I doubt it's the sole factor. Trucks didn't come with factory brake controllers for many years, even if they had 7-way trailer sockets. Usually the owner's manual gave a tow rating without a brake controller and with a brake controller. You just got a brake controller installed aftermarket if you wanted the higher tow capacity.

 

[Hunters Edge]

And you are also wrong, claiming there is no config with that rear end that can handle over 2,000 lbs.

Prove it, show me a Ford AWD with the advanced AWD system where they allow the 4k tow package.

LMFAO WHAT competitors? The Maverick has been nearly uncontested for its life, its only true competitor bowed out, the Santa Cruz.

You need to understand English, reread my post it distinctly says "with new manufacturers entering the market"

Just a question it appears you are trolling, especially looking at your profile. No thread but 185 messages. Are you even old enough to drive?

 

[NIKwithoutaC]

It could easily be responsible, because those twin clutches are fitting into the same space as the normal rear end. That means those clutches are likely smaller then the normal one, which will compromise their ability to deliver power without slipping.

Same reason the VW golf can tow 3500 lbs in Europe, but the GTI cannot. The sportier suspension and the VAG differential cannot guarantee handling the weight without detrimental effects.

According to the article below, the dual-clutch rear axle uses the exact same clutch packs as the single clutch version. You just get one for each side instead of one for the whole unit. The dual-clutch RDU is actually substantially larger than the single clutch unit.

https://www.blueovaltrucks.com/tech-articles/fords-dana-twin-clutch-axle-awd-system/

 

[tiktokbrainrot]

Prove it, show me a Ford AWD with the advanced AWD system where they allow the 4k tow package.

Bro read the replies to your own comment. You've already been disproven. BTW, you claimed the RDU couldn't tow over 2000 lbs.

You were proven wrong. Take the L bud.

Both the lobo and the tremor have the same advanced AWD system/hardware. The RDU has everything to do with not being able to tow more than 2000. Even other models Ford sells that offer the lockers will not tow over 2000lbs. Probably something to do with the clutches but not sure, just in that configuration I have yet seen Ford offer 4000lb towing on any model.

The Bronco sport comes to mind. Especially when many said the front end change to allow a better approach angle on the Maverick didn't allow the transmission cooler, was the reason. Yet the Broco sport had the transmission cooler but with the Advanced AWD system still only allowed 2000lb towing.

This isn't true, at least not for the 2025+ models. The Bronco Sport with the Badlands package, which includes the dual clutch rear axle, has the highest tow rating available for that vehicle at 2700 lbs.

Lots of things go into the trailer weight rating. It could be as simple as Ford didn't find that the shock valving on the Lobo and Tremor were acceptable with a 4000 lb trailer. People have been speculating that the dual clutch rear axle is somehow inferior for towing, but there isn't any evidence for that.

You need to understand English, reread my post it distinctly says "with new manufacturers entering the market"

Just a question it appears you are trolling, especially looking at your profile. No thread but 185 messages. Are you even old enough to drive?

I can understand English just fine. Can you? You didnt answer the question: WHAT new competitors? Where are these mystical super mavericks from other companies? There was 1 other model, the Santa cruz, which was discontinued. The only possible Mav competitor we have seen is the RAM rampage, which cannot tow 5000 lbs. So what exactly is Ford worried about?

Please answer the question like a mature adult instead of throwing a temper tantrum.

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