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Obviously should have sold this thing by now and made a profit.

I thought the question was going to be "Why?"

If you can finance for a lower rate than your money can earn in safe investments (money market, bonds, etc) - finance the whole thing. Keep your money, earning money. If you have to finance it all b/c you don't know how to budget and spend all your money each month no matter what, but "can...

I want it to be without holes for aerodynamics and made of metal for protection!

Mine was born on 10/10/23 also! XL hybrid in Cactus Grey Awaiting shipment - I'll just be happy to get it before my wife's $750 student discount expires on 1/4/24 :D

Yeah too slow and too eco-friendly for a lot of this board ;)

I would say that anything that sticks out would definitely decrease mpg, more so at higher speeds. By how much (even enough to measure?) that's the question.

Look into adding the adj. lumbar. Cheap parts and not too hard. I plan on adding it for sure on my XL - possibly to both seats...

I've noticed recently that people will pay more / DIY to make their mirrors or bumper or trim / etc black I remember when base models had black and body-color painted mirrors / etc were the upgrade. I just chalk it up to people wanting what they don't have. Mirrors came black? I want them...

Spot on. "Automotive engineers are only correct when their science aligns with my beliefs."

Great. Why is Ford not building enough XLs? Why is Toyota prioritizing Limited Sienna $$$ over LE $$? Profit. Free market, yet the consumers can't even buy what they actually want bc OEMs want to make more money off you. It would be the same thing with mpg, except we introduced CAFE and then...

Exactly. The less money I spend, the more I save, the sooner I retire. Work sucks. If I can drive an XL Mav instead of a giant truck and retire a year earlier - heck yes. I make that choice everyday on how I spend my money. Priorities. Some people prefer shiny things and working till they're...

It is simply men trying to attract a mate and/or show off how "successful" they are to the world. Some would say overcompensating could also be at play. Funny thing is that those type of owners also seem to complain about high gas prices - like they can't figure out the reason their $/mi is high.

Yes the climate has changed a lot over a long time. What might be different this time is that it might be changing faster than it has before b/c of what humans have/are doing. The rate of change might be the issue. We're releasing carbon from fossil fuels that sat underground for millions of...

Seems like everyone wants to live here. Quite similar to how people will wait months to years or overpay for a Maverick. Supply and demand.

100% CP360 and a hitch are worthwhile and value priced although with the hybrid upcharge on 2024s, I think the Maverick has greatly lost its strong value-play it'll help with resale though for 2022-2023s (and 2024s price protected)

oh man, I loved my CDs - flip case in the center console or sider behind the visor podcasts pre-downloaded or free streaming for me, now-a-days. too cheap to pay for premium music or XM used to love driving sticks also - I'm okay with a CD-less hybrid auto instead

I'd wager that more turbos have needed replacement than hybrid batteries. Hybrid components gets a nice 100k warranty, also.

They had to limit you so you won't accidentally hit 88 mph when lightning strikes the clocktower. The recall on that one would be costly.

If you trade it in, many states allow you to offset the sales tax - so you pay tax on the difference in price. Also, you just got a 2 year newer model vehicle, with 0 miles on it, for less than $2k out of pocket - if that's the case, you made money. The 2024 will immediately have higher resale...