Reason why Hybrid Maverick interest so high? [WARNING: NO POLITICS]

[Area51BS]

Why so much interest in the hybrid? Just curious. Lower hp. Is mpg difference that important to many? Or is it cost?

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[STARCOMMTREY1]

Why so much interest in the hybrid? Just curious. Lower hp. Is mpg difference that important to many? Or is it cost?

Yes. Mpg. I drive over 100 miles a day if I do the minimum. That extra mileage is huge at the end if the year.

 

[Big_T]

$1,085 lower initial cost.
Gasoline prices are increasing.
Lower HP yes, but sufficient HP unless you need more towing capability.

 

[olderbudwiser]

For me I live in an area that driving 10 miles is a trip. Usually 2-3 miles with traffic lights. So lots of stop and go.

Use to live where 10-15 miles one way was the norm multiple times a day. Speeds were 45-55 regularly so a hybrid was not as attractive. Just figured I would give it a try.

 

[Deleted member 1483]

I ask you this, do you need 250 horsepower? Most crossovers have around 180-200hp, and they have ample performance. I currently own an Escape 2.0, and it's fun, the maybe one time I was able to actually use it. 99% of my driving it sits at 1.5k rpm in top gear.

I am trading it in for a Maverick Hybrid, which I think is the true value in the vehicle. A reliable smooth ecvt, instant torque, 42/33 mpg, and extended warranty. I work for a living, and I do my job from the road. It makes a lot of sense for me to have a reliable fuel efficient vehicle.

I would say the one thing it won't do as well would be towing. If you tow constantly, it's probably worth it to get the ecoboost. I plan on maybe towing a small trailer with my hybrid for wood or special trips, but nothing heavy.

From the videos I have seen with off-roading, not that it is "bad" but if I wanted to do that I would get a bronco or bronco sport. I imagine even the base bronco sport with the 3 cyl would outperform the maverick on a trail.

 

[EvilTwin]

MPG and reliability. Nobody knows where gas prices will go. I started driving during the first gas shortage in the 70's. Gas prices may stay relatively low or they could catch up with the rest of the world.

As for towing, 2k would be fine for me. I don't have any large boats anymore and I could get by with that limit. Would more be nice? Sure, but I don't need it and I'm guessing lots of other folks don't either.

Finally, I don't trust turbos. Long term reliability, say over 100K miles or ten years I think you push your luck. And on most motors they are buried deep so its not a DIY job to replace them.

 

[BB0]

I would like to reverse the question on you; why do you care about horsepower on a commuter vehicle? The appeal of the mav is a cheap, efficient, and utilitarian vehicle. It is not a racecar. The appeal of the hybrid for me was to fill up at the pump less, have a comfortable vehicle, while still maintaining the utility of a bed for outdoor work (fishing equipment, yardwork, etc.). If I wanted to tow something huge where I needed more torque, I would have gotten a full size.

 

[STARCOMMTREY1]

I would like to reverse the question on you; why do you care about horsepower on a commuter vehicle? The appeal of the mav is a cheap, efficient, and utilitarian vehicle. It is not a racecar. The appeal of the hybrid for me was to fill up at the pump less, have a comfortable vehicle, while still maintaining the utility of a bed for outdoor work (fishing equipment, yardwork, etc.). If I wanted to tow something huge where I needed more torque, I would have gotten a full size.

I am keeping my full size.

 

[Area51BS]

I ask you this, do you need 250 horsepower? Most crossovers have around 180-200hp, and they have ample performance. I currently own an Escape 2.0, and it's fun, the maybe one time I was able to actually use it. 99% of my driving it sits at 1.5k rpm in top gear.

I am trading it in for a Maverick Hybrid, which I think is the true value in the vehicle. A reliable smooth ecvt, instant torque, 42/33 mpg, and extended warranty. I work for a living, and I do my job from the road. It makes a lot of sense for me to have a reliable fuel efficient vehicle.

I would say the one thing it won't do as well would be towing. If you tow constantly, it's probably worth it to get the ecoboost. I plan on maybe towing a small trailer with my hybrid for wood or special trips, but nothing heavy.

From the videos I have seen with off-roading, not that it is "bad" but if I wanted to do that I would get a bronco or bronco sport. I imagine even the base bronco sport with the 3 cyl would outperform the maverick on a trail.

Yes I need 250hp. I tow. Last truck was 200hp Colorado and I hated driving it. Terrible highway speed and towing. MPG is not my issue. I only drive 7k a year at most. Been lucky I guess.
To be fair. My wife’s little turbo BSport is pretty impressive.

 

[unlimited]

area51leader summed it up for my reason. We currently have 2 F-150's so getting rid of the older one for one that we can get better gas mileage with makes sense in our household.

 

[Randy H.]

As a home owner I often wish I had a truck again; nothing that requires a full size - but dump runs, big-box store purchases, and no more hooking up the bike rack to my car. I currently drive a 2007 Audi A4 AWD that gets 19MPG (50-60 miles per day commute). The Maverick Hybrid is pretty much the perfect truck for my needs at a cost I can afford.. And it will fit in my garage!

 

[STARCOMMTREY1]

Yes I need 250hp. I tow. Last truck was 200hp Colorado and I hated driving it. Terrible highway speed and towing. MPG is not my issue. I only drive 7k a year at most. Been lucky I guess.

Then don't assume others have YOUR needs or situation. I don't bash anyone after the 4k tow because that's all they may need. I need 15k of towing so I am keeping my Suoer Duty for that purpose. I needed a fuel efficient DD and the Hybrid checks every box. I got a hitch in case I want to tow a light bit of towing.

 

[ITSATRUCK]

Its a better vehicle. Better drive, reliability, less brake changes, fuel exhonomy. Fuel prices are only going up. EV vehicles will be a good chunk of sales by 2028. If ford brings out an EV maverick within 5 years I will trade in. If I needed towing I would have purchased a ranger. They hybrid power train and price are why I purchased.

 

[Dechion]

Why so much interest in the hybrid? Just curious. Lower hp. Is mpg difference that important to many? Or is it cost?

There are several reasons I went with a hybrid. Most of them have to do with how I actually use my vehicles.

I'm not so much buying a truck for the sake of doing truck things, as I am buying a well done SUV with a pickup bed instead of a hatchback.

Looking at the dimensions Maverick and Explorer have nearly the same footprint, with the Maverick being slightly narrower. Length and height are the same. Explorer however is body on frame, and loses a little interior space in comparison. (Height wise inside, explorer Obviously has more overall as its a 3 row SUV)

From a feel standpoint comparing the two the Maverick felt just about as roomy as my daughters explorer, in the front row where I was sitting at least.

For horsepower Its more about how its geared than the HP number. (Yes, it makes a difference, but not as much as one would think)
I'm currently driving a little Kia with 145 HP that weighs in at 2800 pounds. When I actually get on it the car accelerates like a mildly annoyed tortoise despite having 19.3 HP/LB.

My daughters explorer on the other hand is far more responsive, accelerates better, and overall does just fine with 280 HP pulling a 4500 Lb vehicle, despite only having 16 HP/LB.

The Hybrid Maverick is coming in at 3600 LB and 191 HP. I think with the same company that made that explorer so peppy at 16 HP/LB will have no problem making the Maverick do just fine with 18.8 HP/LB.

Would more HP be nice? Sure. Is it needed? I don't think so.

Fuel economy is certainly on my radar with the hybrid also. Assuming that I were to get the combined MPG on average, and drove the Maverick 100,000 miles, the savings in fuel would be:
100,000 @ 37 mpg = 2,702 gallons
100,000 @ 23 mpg = 4,347 gallons
Difference of 1,645 gallons.

At current gas prices of about $3.50 a gallon where I live thats a savings of $5,757 over the first 100,000.

That doesn't include the price difference of the hybrid using regular 87 octane and the ecoboost needing the more expensive 91 octane fuel, or the fact that the worse gas prices get the more I'll save in the long run.

The fact that hybrid is the standard power train just makes it better, as the ecoboost starts out $1085 more expensive. That would bring the savings to almost $7,000 over the first 100,000 miles, depending on gas prices.

If my needs were different, and I needed more capability I might switch to an ecoboost, or even a larger truck, but thats just not the case for me.

I think Maverick found a sweet spot in functionally and economy that is appealing to a much broader audience than Ford originally expected. That explains why there are so many pre-sales when I have yet to see it advertised. Even the Ford truck ads I see on television only mention the F series and the Lighting (which is still F series, but still further in the future than Maverick)

Alright, I'll quit rambling now. My coffee is ready and its time to get to work.

 

[Romanhawk]

This thread also highlights the appeal and versatility of the Mav. It can satisfy the crowd that requires mileage and commutability along with the folks that need a bit more torque and towing. I’m replacing a Ram crew and a Maxima for the hybrid Mav because it fulfills both rolls, thus savings in insurance bills, maintenance, etc. I also don’t require heavy lifting/towing at this time.

Its easy to buy into ”bigger is better, more HP is better.“ Sometimes that is very true. Just not all the time. Both sides of the sliding scale have a place with the Mav.

Additionally, the full size trucks nowadays are absolutely HUGE. And I mean, enormous, vehicles. They’re waaay more capable that what many need. Its kinda like your iPhone. That thing has enough commuting power to launch a rocket, but many use it for simple thing like games and social media.

The Mav community should represent quite a diverse section of people and how they use their new truck. There’s a place for all of us here!

Despite Ford’s challenges in the build and tracking process seen a lot on this forum, it’s not hard to see the execs were onto something in their decision to drop the cars for vehicles like the Mav. By almost all accounts, those of us driving the Mav now have positive things to say.

Cheers.

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