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I've not yet had a home 120 VAC LED lamp last the full rating. Not a single one.
kind of hard to have 50,000 hours of use. That would be 5.7 years of being on constantly. I put LEDs in my house when I bought it 7 years ago and exactly 3 have failed. Mostly, it isnt the LED that fails, it is the power converter/supply.
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Because they DON'T last 10 years or more.
Just out of curiosity, How many people have had their LEDs go out in their Maverick? we may just need some data.
 

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not the case on the XL/XLT.
DRL = normal headlights. There is no difference in output.
Step outside and move the light knob to on - you will not see a difference at all.

Its a poor design and I said it many times. DRL should be one bank, whereas low beam two banks. This would at least have some difference. Or adjust the voltage (like yours post).

Not a question for you, but I think XL/XLT DRL being the actaul low beams might be one of the few (if not only) car here in the US that operates that way. Every car I seen with DRLs has some strip or small lit area. Not full blown like this.
My Cruze DLR are just the headlights. I can't tell if the power is lower, or just the same. I have never checked. I did swap out the halogen bulbs for LED a while back and love the results. There are little fans on mine to help keep them cool.
 

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I am just here to add another vote for - lights are cheap, relative to any accident. I turn my headlights and taillights on every time I am in the car.

I can’t imagine being concerned about the potential cost of replacement and not using lights for that reason. To me it’s like saying “I don’t drive at night to save my headlights”.

Also, do whatever you want and I will do the same!
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Just to play devils advocate, there have been studies that show tail lights on during the day is hazardous. I cant find the study I read, but that is why they offer DRL that don't turn on tail lights. I think it had something to with the brightness shift of read is harder to see in the day and people are less likely to tell that brakes are applied. I have had trouble telling the difference of some tail lights vs brake lights in the day, especially if the center light is burnt out.
 

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kind of hard to have 50,000 hours of use. That would be 5.7 years of being on constantly. I put LEDs in my house when I bought it 7 years ago and exactly 3 have failed. Mostly, it isnt the LED that fails, it is the power converter/supply.
Still a failure.
And when you have complex, multi component "fixtures" you multiply how many failure points there are.
 

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Wait I'm confused, does the Maverick have daytime running lights or you just mean you turn reg headlights on daily? Or is it a lariat? My friend has an XLT and she says she doesn't have them. I don't have mine yet. Thanks!
My 2003 hybrid has them don't see anyway to turn them off if I wanted to
 

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Still a failure.
And when you have complex, multi component "fixtures" you multiply how many failure points there are.
Understood, but for me I am not going to stop doing something because it might happen. I might get in an accident every time i get in my car. I am still going to drive. I bought a TV to watch, but if I use it, it might wear out, so I am just not going to use it. My DLRs might go out early, but I am still going to run them. If they fail, or even when they fail, I will determine then if I think it is worth replacing.
 

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This forum is hilarious
On both sides.

The "benefit" of having them on is usually grossly over-stated.

The "benefit" of turning them off, equally over-stated.

Bottom line: your choice. Unless you are in Canada.
 

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I see the benefit of other people running their DRLs, because I can see them better. I don't see the benefit of me running mine because I can't see myself better.
 

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Where I think they are helpful;
(This is me)

Windy, twisty, forested roads, where there are intersections. And when passing on such roads.

IE: three-fourths of Canada. 😎
 
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And the other post is wrong.

Modern high output LED get hot. VERY HOT. 🔥
The cree led had a silicone carbide substrate and also used it in the chip structure itself. When cree sold the led business they sold the cree name and retained other separately owned corps and patents. The silicon carbide business is now called Wolfspeed and is building a chip manufacturing plant in SC something like $2.?+billion. They sold first right of refusal to auto parts manufacturing Co for (20%?) of capacity. Silicon carbide aka carborundum has a phase change temp in excess of 1700°C so it's at home in high temps. I understand one way to dim LEDs is to control current and use two banks of LEDs on alternating current. If each bank has say 10 leds and current is kept the same when one of more LEDs fail the remaining LEDs burn brighter which of course shortens their remaining life but the bulb will maintain it's lumens until the last 60% of LEDs start dropping like flies. The other bank is wired with reverse polarity and as a result is brightest when the other bank is dark. Yes they alternately flicker on and off at 60 cycles/second in US but anything faster than 25-30 times a second cannot be determined by human eyes.
 

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Yes but.....

The plastics used are good for ~350°F max. And Solder melts at ~450°F.

And yes; most LED in most automotive applications run off AC power. Even in non hybrids. Which makes them non-polarized for the consumer, manufacturing, and assembly plant.

I've read it can also be fast pulsing DC power to control brightness. Still, they usually don't have polarity.
 
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Funny you bring up Cree, all my failed bulbs were Cree.
 

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Still a failure.
And when you have complex, multi component "fixtures" you multiply how many failure points there are.
I think the point I was trying to make was that My bulbs that are still working (Probably close 60) have not had the opportunity to get anywhere close to their 50,000 hour rating. SO far, I am at about 5% failure. All of my bulbs that did fail were all "older models" and were early generations. I have not had a new LED Bulb go out in over 5 years.
 

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I think the point I was trying to make was that My bulbs that are still working (Probably close 60) have not had the opportunity to get anywhere close to their 50,000 hour rating. SO far, I am at about 5% failure. All of my bulbs that did fail were all "older models" and were early generations. I have not had a new LED Bulb go out in over 5 years.
Have you noticed color temperature shift over the years? The older they get, I think they get yellower / warmer.

As anyone would do, I replace them one at a time. In a chandelier, the new of the same make and model does not match the color of the old.

This is my major gripe with LED for home use. Every make/model of bulb is a slightly different color.

Tungsten always was, well, tungsten colored.
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