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Sign me up for no heated seats or steering wheel. My wife has had these for a long time and all I ever do with em is turn them off. I wanted lux for other reasons.
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Hummm...wonder how they handle warranty claims against features that aren't fully functional till the feature is actually "activated" in the SOLD vehicle.
So...
  1. One warranty date for the vehicle.
  2. One warranty date for delayed feature?
Better get it all in writing...with a defined "deliver by" date. Otherwise, what's to stop them using the chips sourced into higher line orders...while making the Maverick owners wait....

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"Within one year" - Sorry Sir/Ma'am but your heated seats and steering wheel won't actually work until AFTER winter 2022/2023.
 

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Wonder how my insurance company will price an incomplete vehicle? Cant wait to hear about the claim experience for a damaged/totaled partially built Maverick.
That is a good point! I could see how an insurance company might try to twist the fact the Maverick wasn't a complete vehicle and therefore not pay full value or even trying to say Ford was responsible for the accident.
 

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yeah but you know how wiring harnesses are - imagine some module way up there on the harness under the dash and them having to remove the dash to get to it, good luck getting a non damaged dash re-installed properly....
Yep, there’s always an opportunity for damage when doing rework, even if the module is easily accessible.
 

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Can somebody explain why heated seats would need a chip? Seems to me It's simply a high/low/off switch to a carbon fiber element.
 

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I would be very surprised if Ford sends trucks without chips for Co-Pilot 360. That would be very stupid. My guess would be chips for Luxury Package ie: heated seats, heated steering wheel. Ford won’t risk safety for productivity, they would have massive law suits if there were accidents.
If it is not a federal or state safety requirement feature for a new vehicle. And is a trim level/ optional add on..
Then good luck trying to sue anybody over it... Think about that a minute it is a peace of mind feature... Do some people need it? Maybe yes then u have other options on vehicles to buy.. But just because u think it is a required safety feature doesn't mean the law or courts will think the same... That's the same as saying I wanted a bright yellow truck for the safety cuz it might be easier to see... I'm going to sue cuz this brand / model doesn't have it as a option.. And how dare they sell me one that isn't this color because it not a option or aval at the time I want it...
Plus u are also forgetting g the fact that ford just like most other companies have team of layers and accounts.. Crunching #'s and liability issues over should they just pay lawsuit claims or issue a recall on known issues which will be cheaper on them
 

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Im wondering if there are usable chips that can be taken from junked vehicles??? :unsure:
 

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Laugh at these incomplete vehicle and trouble with insurance claims. We're talking heated seats, steering wheel etc. During an oil change or regular service you can get it installed. For those, who do there own maintenance or other non dealership service, it's a special trip but you have your vehicle. Guess you don't mind waiting then hopefully you can opted out.

PS. Never heard of a heated seat or wheel failure but guess it happens.
 
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I mentioned on the other thread, I wonder if the are usable chips that can be pulled from junked vehicles???
 

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Ford will sell partially built vehicles awaiting chips or related components that control non-safety critical features, it told dealers today.

Dealers will get the missing chips within 1 year to install on the already-sold vehicles, Ford said.

news story:


DETROIT – Amid an ongoing chip shortage, Ford is reportedly planning to ship and sell vehicles without certain non-critical chips as the automaker deals with a pile of unfinished vehicles.

Automotive News reports that Ford told dealerships on Saturday that they plan to sell vehicles without chips for some non-safety features, with plans to install them in the already-sold cars within a year.

Ford, like other automakers, has been dealing with a shortage of semiconductor microchips, and have a growing inventory of vehicles waiting for chips.

Ford isn’t the first to eliminate some chip-powered features. GM temporarily dropped heated seats in some models earlier this year.
That's fine with me!
I just need Basic transport Now... features later as long as they come
 

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EXTRA EXTRA Tim is going to have a huge viewing audience asking all kinds of questions about this. I'm sure this will be the number one topic on Tuesday nights live stream and definitely will take up the majority of the time see y'all there👍🤔😲👍
 

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Hummm...wonder how they handle warranty claims against features that aren't fully functional till the feature is actually "activated" in the SOLD vehicle.
So...
  1. One warranty date for the vehicle.
  2. One warranty date for delayed feature?
Better get it all in writing...with a defined "deliver by" date. Otherwise, what's to stop them using the chips sourced into higher line orders...while making the Maverick owners wait....

Should FMC be trusted...anyone with FMC ownership history care to chime in...
Just like a recall item, a bulletin and service does it for free.
 

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I think its going to get a lot worse. What do you think all this warfare related tech is using that everyone is using in the Ukraine/Russian conflict? All this tech that is being destroyed is going to have to be replaced, and what do you think is going to get higher priority, someone's heated seats or a Javelin?

I think this is going to get rough before it gets better, most of the planned chip manufacturing facilities are going to take a couple years to get up and running. And we had better hope China does not make a move on Taiwan, or things will get wayyyy worse.

1000% Agree
I am a Chef and we are still seeing lots of supply chain issues with food, I work in tech sector (ie. Chip makers like Qualcomm5g) the company's that design the chips are struggling to convince ppl to return to campus...
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