No Toyota Compact trucks in the future.

[Toymaster]

80's vehicle pricing will always stay in the 80's. You'd have to really stupid to think $5,000-$6,000 new trucks are coming back.

It is almost like people don't understand inflation and how our economy works...can't be that.

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[Toymaster]

The 25 digital refresh is a disaster IMO

They sold more, so objectively not a disaster. All things changed were an improvement, larger screen, higher quality headlights, larger trans, and AWD offered in every powertrain. Losing the hard climate buttons is so a non-issue.

I bought one due to efficiency with hauling capabilities. I don't know of any other car of any sort that can haul 1,500lbs payload and 4'x8' sheets while getting this level of fuel economy.

 

[babytruk]

It wasn't for me.
Apparently 155,050 other folks (at least) disagree with you.

The '25's sales were an 18.2% increase from the previous year, making it the best sales year for the Maverick since its launch.

Maybe we see some more sales now because so many people are just starting to discover them (but thats about another post). It’s still one of the best deals out there IMO.

 

[Suzukiridr14]

Makes sense since it would probably kill the Tacoma sales and they don't want that.

Now on Fords side what I could see happening is them dropping the Ranger in the US when the second gen Maverick comes out. I could also see the second gen Maverick growing a little getting a 5,000lb towing and 500lb hitch weight capacity and a 5 foot bed.

What you wrote makes sense to me. The mid sized trucks have lots of competition, (Ridgeline, Colorado, Canyon, Frontier, Tacoma) and there's word that the Dakota is coming back. No Santa Cruz?, no Maverick competition!

 

[Blue_Max]

2028? Redesign?

I guess.

 

[Blue_Max]

The Smart car is an oxymoron.
The problem with an incredibly downsized vehicle is that it shares the road with most vehicles being "just slightly" larger than it is.
In the sledge hammer vs. beer can contest, the beer can doesn't win.

What was missed in the want vs. need was the unforeseen...
See a great deal on a large item on the way home, perhaps at a garage sale.. Oops, too bad.
A couple of friends that need a ride from work. Nope.

The trade off in mpg just doesn't offset the perceived "what if" needs, or the Smart Car would still be in production, but it isn't. It's also reflected in their low resale values, retaining only about a third of their original value after three years.

It was an eco focused urban niche market vehicle to begin with, and most of those buyers are likely now driving EVs.

I did see that the car may be coming back as a micro EV made in China.

The Smart Car wasn't designed for American interstates and warehouse clubs. It was designed for crowded European cities, to be used in the city. It excels at that use.

 

[LSchicago]

I remember Toyota's first "large" truck was the T 100. It was obviously intended to attract the F series customer. But it was a swing and a miss. From what I understand, when they relaunched it as the tundra, they literally bought and F-150, took it apart, and copied it. And tried to better it in some areas such as a more powerful engine slightly more room, etc. you can see the trucks side by side and see that Toyota did a lot of copying. They knew that the F-150 was the standard. In my opinion they did the same with the Tacoma. Ford set the standard for compact trucks when they replaced The courier with the ranger. Toyota later copied Ford and continue to improve while the original Ranger stalled and was allowed to become stale. I think that's what allowed Toyota to grab the midsize truck market. Ford kept improving the F-150. So why Toyota tundra is a moderate success, it is still nowhere near the success of the F series. Perhaps they realize that the Ford is unlikely to repeat the mistake they made with the original Ranger. So they are hesitant to bring their small truck and commit to competing with Ford in that area

The T100 looked like a Stretched out little truck. The design was horrible. Nobody wanted them.

 

[LSchicago]

It is almost like people don't understand inflation and how our economy works...can't be that.

I wouldn't want to go back to making $5-$8 an hour either.

 

[MaverickDragon]

The Smart Car wasn't designed for American interstates and warehouse clubs. It was designed for crowded European cities, to be used in the city. It excels at that use.

I understand the design rationale, and its target market.
It does sip gas, but so does a Vespa, as long as you stay at or under the 2 person limit.

For the US market, the last time I looked around, there were nearby Interstates.
This may explain the dearth of Smart Cars...

 

[kevinmccune]

I wouldn't want to go back to making $5-$8 an hour either.

even at $7 an hour in the early ninties I was doing better,now I can hardly afford anything,forget going to the meat section in the supermarket,beef was a fond memory.

 

[LSchicago]

It wasn't for me.
Apparently 155,050 other folks (at least) disagree with you.

The '25's sales were an 18.2% increase from the previous year, making it the best sales year for the Maverick since its launch.

True, the 25 updates are awesome. The best part is that the Hybrid got more powerful and heavier duty. Very happy with my decision to upgrade from the 23.

 

[LSchicago]

even at $7 an hour in the early ninties I was doing better,now I can hardly afford anything,forget going to the meat section in the supermarket,beef was a fond memory.

Sounds like you need a job upgrade.

 

[kevinmccune]

thats in the past now,at 61 I became disabled due to spondylitis and fused discs,my former employers sure did get my best years on the x-ray you can see were my spine looks like it wants slip off my pelvis after the "process" broke off L5 I guess I am lucky to be walking around and have few complaints other then the healthcare industry being subpar,at 69 consulting the actuarial tables on the average it would seem there is not that many years left to worry about it( back in the day you couldnt buy a minimum wage job around here-now there are good paying jobs everywhere and no one seems to want to work.

 

[Cherokee]

even at $7 an hour in the early ninties I was doing better,now I can hardly afford anything,forget going to the meat section in the supermarket,beef was a fond memory.

We are different,
I buy meat, I like beef, I need 1.6 grams of protein per kilo of body weight.
About 112 grams a day.

I would buy and happily drive a buy here pay here used car, or fix up a beater before I’d deny myself good nourishment.

Screw the Maverick, my Back up car is a perfectly running piece of shit 2004 escape with 229,000 miles. It’s trust worthy because I know how to keep it running.
I’d be just fine without the Maverick.

My health comes first.

 

[Wahjahbvious]

I'd be embarrassed to tell you how much I'd be willing to pay for a really nice interior. Like, a special edition that's just "here's a small, hybrid pickup with the quietest, softest interior we could manage?" shutupandtakemymoney.gif, y'know?

Given the price variance between an XL Maverick and a Lobo we already know people will spend whatever they like to get what they want.

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