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Getting back to the original issue of a small Ford electric truck; I don't think they can put enough battery capacity in it to make a good road truck. As an in town or short trip it might make a good option. Just depends on your needs.
I suspect it is designed specifically for in town and short trips. It is obviously intended to be an entry-level EV. (I also suspect that there will be a longer-range battery available as an option at additional cost, just as Ford offers with the Mustang Mach E.)
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Below url describes Ford's plans to produce a small EV truck for $30K in the near future. Idea sounds good but if you look at the article, it will be built in three pieces. Front, Middle and Rear section to be bolted together. Must admit that is a new concept. Kind of like a Lego set? Wonder how insurance companies will like it?
Can a $30,000 electric truck turn around Ford’s EV sales?
Yes,,,, A strong Aluminum Die Cast FRAME system will be the way Ford obtains a weight & cost savings. And therefore passes it along to the customer.
Tesla has this type of system now and the rest of the car industry is following them.
So will the car/truck insurance groups have to follow as well.
 

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I was just thinking of how many Mavericks seem to be totaled with a rear ender. I guess it would be the same deal, although if frame isn't bent, perhaps they just replace the back third of the body............ Or perhaps the frame is part of the back third also??

EDIT: Oops, my thought posted while I was typing this.:wink:
It could be less expensive depending on the battery placement and protection. If the vehicle is in 3 sections, an accident that may total a unibody could possibly just require a section to be replaced using the same principle as replacing a bed on a body on frame truck
 

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So who wants a fire hazard in there attached garage that the fire department can not put out? I know I don't and believe many others feel the same way.

I've read many posts that express it's cheaper to maintain and run on electricity vs ICE. Just wondering if they added the extra cost to replace the battery, brakes and tires into it? Also did they include the charging system they had to buy for the house and what about the huge deficit owners take over ICE when they sell it. I really don't see any savings when you include everything associated with EV.

I don't have the time to wait in line let alone the 19 to 20 minute charge. Sorry but the majority of the US do not want them.

I live in Northern Michigan and still have brownouts and downed lines even with the usage now. Just consider for one moment a natural disaster. This winter northern Michigan got hit with an ice storm. Many areas after 21 days was still out of electricity do to downed wires. Just snapping telephone poles with weather and thus it took weeks if not months.

Last winter two nights 17 below zero not many batteries survive this extreme. Like was posted try towing or hauling extra weight and see how far electric will get you?
 

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I suspect it is designed specifically for in town and short trips. It is obviously intended to be an entry-level EV. (I also suspect that there will be a longer-range battery available as an option at additional cost, just as Ford offers with the Mustang Mach E.)
Some predict it to be a 150-175 mile vehicle which would make it short trip truck. Which would serve all but long trip. I could see the $30,000 price including that. But hopefully, they'll be able to offer a 250-300 Mile extended range as an option. With the lightning I think it initially was a 10,000 option. But the new vehicle is supposed to have more advanced yet less expensive battery technology. I could see it being a 2-5,000 option which would still leave it in the affordable truck category.
 

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Per the fine article, the new pick up will have a 51 kwh battery. Per energy.gov, the average cost of EV batteries in 2022 is $153 kwh. And the price is dropping like a stone. Down 89% since 2008.

https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/articles/fotw-1272-january-9-2023-electric-vehicle-battery-pack-costs-2022-are-nearly#:~:text=The 2022,per year.

Using those numbers, the battery cost would be $7,803. But prices have fallen since then, and the OP article mentions that they are using an even less expensive (yet more durable) nickel manganese cobalt (NMC) packs process and materials.

A reasonable spit ball number would be around $5,000 to $6,000 battery cost.
For those who are fundamentally opposed to EVs, there will be another reason to oppose it being offered and disappointment if it actually sells well. 😅
 

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So who wants a fire hazard in there attached garage that the fire department can not put out? I know I don't and believe many others feel the same way.
I don't know, but tens of thousands of electric vehicles at least have already been sold, and the vast majority of them haven't caught fire. Not everyone who owns a vehicle has an attached garage, either.
Anyway, you will not be required to buy one. Jim Farley doesn't have the power.
 

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I don't know, but tens of thousands of electric vehicles at least have already been sold, and the vast majority of them haven't caught fire. Not everyone who owns a vehicle has an attached garage, either.
Anyway, you will not be required to buy one. Jim Farley doesn't have the power.
Again only 3 to 7% of the population. Definitely not running away especially comparing it to ICE vehicles
 

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So who wants a fire hazard in there attached garage that the fire department can not put out? I know I don't and believe many others feel the same way.

I've read many posts that express it's cheaper to maintain and run on electricity vs ICE. Just wondering if they added the extra cost to replace the battery, brakes and tires into it? Also did they include the charging system they had to buy for the house and what about the huge deficit owners take over ICE when they sell it. I really don't see any savings when you include everything associated with EV.

I don't have the time to wait in line let alone the 19 to 20 minute charge. Sorry but the majority of the US do not want them.

I live in Northern Michigan and still have brownouts and downed lines even with the usage now. Just consider for one moment a natural disaster. This winter northern Michigan got hit with an ice storm. Many areas after 21 days was still out of electricity do to downed wires. Just snapping telephone poles with weather and thus it took weeks if not months.

Last winter two nights 17 below zero not many batteries survive this extreme. Like was posted try towing or hauling extra weight and see how far electric will get you?
Those who want the vehicle will buy it. Those who don't want it, will buy something else.
So who wants a fire hazard in there attached garage that the fire department can not put out? I know I don't and believe many others feel the same way.

I've read many posts that express it's cheaper to maintain and run on electricity vs ICE. Just wondering if they added the extra cost to replace the battery, brakes and tires into it? Also did they include the charging system they had to buy for the house and what about the huge deficit owners take over ICE when they sell it. I really don't see any savings when you include everything associated with EV.

I don't have the time to wait in line let alone the 19 to 20 minute charge. Sorry but the majority of the US do not want them.

I live in Northern Michigan and still have brownouts and downed lines even with the usage now. Just consider for one moment a natural disaster. This winter northern Michigan got hit with an ice storm. Many areas after 21 days was still out of electricity do to downed wires. Just snapping telephone poles with weather and thus it took weeks if not months.

Last winter two nights 17 below zero not many batteries survive this extreme. Like was posted try towing or hauling extra weight and see how far electric will get you?
Those who want it will buy it. Those who don't want it will choose from the alternatives. It's really not that big of a deal. There are vehicles that you could not give me. But they sell well because other people want them. And what they Park in their garage does not really affect me. I will make the case why I won't get it. But I won't try to speak for others who may want it.
 

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According to Car and Driver mag the 2026 Nissan Leaf base model will be priced near 26K. 52 kwh battery. So 30K for Fords new "Ranchero" should be doable. We shall see. ✌
 
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Those who want the vehicle will buy it. Those who don't want it, will buy something else.

Those who want it will buy it. Those who don't want it will choose from the alternatives. It's really not that big of a deal. There are vehicles that you could not give me. But they sell well because other people want them. And what they Park in their garage does not really affect me. I will make the case why I won't get it. But I won't try to speak for others who may want it.
I agree but it's a narrow sliver of the population that will buy electric. For the money invested it's not much in return. Hopefully with technology something else can be available that will meet the needs of American's. At present you couldn't give me one.
 

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So who wants a fire hazard in there attached garage that the fire department can not put out? I know I don't and believe many others feel the same way.

I've read many posts that express it's cheaper to maintain and run on electricity vs ICE. Just wondering if they added the extra cost to replace the battery, brakes and tires into it? Also did they include the charging system they had to buy for the house and what about the huge deficit owners take over ICE when they sell it. I really don't see any savings when you include everything associated with EV.

I don't have the time to wait in line let alone the 19 to 20 minute charge. Sorry but the majority of the US do not want them.

I live in Northern Michigan and still have brownouts and downed lines even with the usage now. Just consider for one moment a natural disaster. This winter northern Michigan got hit with an ice storm. Many areas after 21 days was still out of electricity do to downed wires. Just snapping telephone poles with weather and thus it took weeks if not months.

Last winter two nights 17 below zero not many batteries survive this extreme. Like was posted try towing or hauling extra weight and see how far electric will get you?
personally I see advantages and disadvantages. So a person simply needs to weigh the advantages and disadvantages against their own lifestyle and likes and dislikes. As for myself, as a local vehicle it would suit me fine because I drive about 100 miles a day which would be well within its range if it turned out to be 150 MI. But I probably would not get it if it was my only vehicle and I needed to travel out of town regularly. But if the range increases to around 300 miles, I wouldn't hesitate even if it was my only vehicle because about two or two and a half hours is about the longest I like to sit behind the wheel without either getting out to stretch or having to use the bathroom since I'm a bit older.
 

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personally I see advantages and disadvantages. So a person simply needs to weigh the advantages and disadvantages against their own lifestyle and likes and dislikes. As for myself, as a local vehicle it would suit me fine because I drive about 100 miles a day which would be well within its range if it turned out to be 150 MI. But I probably would not get it if it was my only vehicle and I needed to travel out of town regularly. But if the range increases to around 300 miles, I wouldn't hesitate even if it was my only vehicle because about two or two and a half hours is about the longest I like to sit behind the wheel without either getting out to stretch or having to use the bathroom since I'm a bit older.
I know someone that thought similar to you and purchased a volt. He only gets like 40 miles out of it . Still uses it because the cost to replace the battery is cost prohibited.
 

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I suspect it is designed specifically for in town and short trips. It is obviously intended to be an entry-level EV. (I also suspect that there will be a longer-range battery available as an option at additional cost, just as Ford offers with the Mustang Mach E.)
Kinda like I mentioned; more than 80% of drivers don't go more than 40 miles a day. Also of note, at least 2/3 of pickup drivers do not do "pickup stuff" with them; they just have them because they like the aesthetics of driving a pickup. So, an EV pickup that gets 200+ miles per charge is OVER qualified for most drivers.

On the price, that's just a bait and switch thing, No way they are offering this for $30k, especially years from now. Even the Maverick XL is over $30k with inflation and tariffs.
 

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Since it has only a 51 KWH battery leads me to believe that it will be an Extended Range EV. So it will have an onboard generator to charge the battery on the go for long distances. Like the Chevy Volt had. If that is the case, I will be very interested. If not, I am only slightly more than zero interested. ✌
Not for 30 K it wont The BYD Shark from china is like that but is about 45K. I saw youtube review of it. It came from Mexico were its sold. So no way no how for 30K . Its just going to be a real short range truck. Want 250 range pay 40K.
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