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To be clear, it depends upon what you're signing. Lots of dealers will ask you to sign BS "agreement to buy" forms that are about as legally binding as a gum wrapper, they're just there to make someone feel like they're on the hook. Once you start signing title/financing stuff, then obviously...

I'd think you should still be able to secure a local deal right at MSRP, if not a touch below, unless you live in a quasi-Florida type area where dealers are extra greedy. The later it gets, the more I suspect you'll see this though...

That's a valuable piece of context but I think it's far better to just review, area by area, your personal risk aversion. For me? Powertrain: Very expensive to fix but good base warranty, so ESP not worth it. Paint failures: Not covered anyway, ESP not worth it. Suspension: Unlikely to fail...

Ford's ESP (which you linked to) and their Maintenance Plans are different things. The former is an extended warranty and the latter is basically prepayment for maintenance. With that said tho, I agree. It's the only car warranty I've ever considered or bought, so I agree. Decent value.

EXACTLY my thoughts. And no way I'd want to go with a hitch mount rack. The shorter length of the Mav is what made me so interested. Add on a hitch, and you'll end up longer than a Ranger and sacrifice the Mav's most unique feature, IMO.

I'd be curious to know how much it ends up running. Last time I bought new, I looked into one and it wasn't nearly worth it in my estimation. The years have been hard on me too, so I'm done doing it myself, but finding a reputable, local shop to do my work made a TON more financial sense to me...

I'm not arguing for or against anything, I was just letting others know that when you said that there is no penalty for waiting and that all extended warranties have a deductible, you were mistaken on both points. And to correct you again, no, my example had nothing to do with the ESP being...

You certainly don't have to do it at the time of purchase and there's not a HUGE difference but there ABSOLUTELY IS increased cost if you wait. Playing around with Flood Ford's ESP calculator and comparing a 2020 Escape with zero miles vs one with 35,000 miles and looking at a $0 deductible, 6...

I thought the same exact thing.

Leave it to me to choose the second highest rate, lol.

Sounds like a Ranger would be a better fit for you cuz I agree, I think this is basically an Escape with a 4 ft bed; that's why I want it.

Great insight and vids, ty! I've been keeping my fingers crossed that I'd have a similar takeaway once I drove one. And in fairness, I don't necessarily "need/want" that much fun from my daily driver, so I'm hopeful. On the other hand, the only two cars I've driven the last 4 years are a Z06...

Yup. It's also not like vehicles handled stateside by experienced workers are immune from failure, either. Here's a picture of what 4 years and 40,000 miles of well maintained, accident free ownership has done to my 2017 Escape. From what I've seen on Ford Escape forums? I'm NOWHERE NEAR the...

Since those vehicles are in a different class, that's really not too surprising tho, is it? If you compare the Tacoma and Tundra to comparable vehicles, like the Ranger/F150, the residual values appear to be almost exactly the same. So, I guess we're starting to see a baseline for small truck...

Yep, 2017 with about 42k miles and no wrecks/damage. OTOH, my decades old Corvette still has damn near perfect, original factory paint. I haven't reached out to them yet but when I do I'm sure I'll get the same answer that almost every other person in my shoes has gotten from both dealers and...

For those that will be running right out to protect your Mav's paint straight from the dealerships, which route are you taking? I'm leaning towards PPF but I have two primary concerns: 1. I live in rock chip country and PPF seems way better at protecting against that. 2. After dealing with...

I assume they mean the dealer stock we're all expecting to start showing up for sale on dealer lots in mid September. I didn't see OP say anything about buying stock right now.

I spent a decent amount of time ogling a Cactus Grey Bronco a couple weekends and it was the lack of a strong green tint, and predominant grey tone that convinced me to go with it over A51. What a controversial color this is!

....and I welcome any excuse to hit up Venice Beach for a long weekend. From the looks of your location, this might present a "two birds, one stone" scenario for me. I'll def keep you in mind!

:love::love::love: Thanks!!!