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The model 3 starts at $47k so yeah, i’d expect at least 15k over that for the base cybertruck if it’s dual motor.

55k 2023 hybrid orders and maybe 10% have even been scheduled at this point and most of those were 2022 carryover orders. Why do you think Ford started allowing drivetrain order changes? So you get your truck in 4 months and you think that’s the norm? Read the room.

My rav4 hybrid wait time was 2 months. I gave Ford a 2 month head start and they couldnt so much as give me a schedule date in that time.

Well it only took about 2 months for my hybrid rav4 to show up, compared with a not even scheduled maverick after 3.5 months. Granted the wait for a hybrid rav4 appears to be longer in canada from what i have heard.

Got a call from my toyota dealer today and they have a rav4 hybrid LE meeting my specs in route priced at MSRP. took about 2 months to show up for them to get one for me.

My dealer has one allocation a month. Not expecting to get built

I am not even sure why it is a discussion because only the lucky few are even getting hybrids at this point. but generally speaking, if you think a 2.0 turbocharged engine with standard slushbox is going to last 2/3 as long as a hybrid with ecvt… well, good luck with that. But then again, good...

Is ford following this thread? they should be since the market research is being done for them.

Same dealer?

Thanks, i forgot that Ford actually posted that on this forum.

Ford said that back in March... but that has since changed back to the allocation method. Your salesman is very out of date. Mind you, Ford could change their mind about that at any point, but I heard nothing to suggest they are doing away with allocations.

The mpg ratings have changed for 2023. So that model is likely rated less now.

Not sure where you are getting your Hwy mileage from but the AWD Ecboost for 2023 is rated at 24hwy... which is a far cry from the hybrid.

Shipping has been extremely slow... not unusual for vehicles to sit weeks waiting for a train/truck to deliver. Check some of the threads on the late 2022MY deliveries... some of those guys had their vehicle sitting for weeks 50 miles away waiting on transport to dealer.

June-23 is what you meant for Ford to finish building EB orders i believe? But they do essentially have hybrid orders for 2 years of builds. Which i just don't understand how they could sit back and not do anything on those (other than letting people switch to EB).

Ugh.. That’s a good point. Not really a great scenario for lariat orders.

That's odd... i got my first on 10/31 and 2nd last thursday. Exactly 45 and 90 days from order.

@Shay care to clarify, i am curious.

I would still opt for the hybrid if it was 1k more than a ecoboost. But to be clear i have next to no interest in a non hybrid vehicle. Also they are the same price now, so not really a hypothetical question any longer.

Not really sure your point but Rav4 sales are 48% hybrid/52% ice And the % of hybrid sales is rapidly increasing.