Buy a Lobo or 2024 & modify?

[Amizzy30]

Hey all,

Since the lobo announcement I’ve been trying to acquire more info on the platform. I’ve seen some excellent builds on the current version of the maverick, which makes me conflicted.

With that said, I’m a bit curious if anyone has opinions on the Lobo vs modifying a 2024 (probably a lariat)

My goals would be to have a pretty well balanced daily that has some decent performance chops, but nothing unrealistic. I wouldn’t hate being capable of the occasional track day (I realize it isn’t a track car) but mostly some spirited drives. I do not currently own a Maverick at all.

I believe the lobo is a bit closer out of the box but will still need some modifications. I find the rear diff, transmission and steering rack as potentially the keys to this. But I don’t know much about the current. Open to anyone’s thoughts!

Thanks!

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[Vtec87pr1]

Hey all,

Since the lobo announcement I’ve been trying to acquire more info on the platform. I’ve seen some excellent builds on the current version of the maverick, which makes me conflicted.

With that said, I’m a bit curious if anyone has opinions on the Lobo vs modifying a 2024 (probably a lariat)

My goals would be to have a pretty well balanced daily that has some decent performance chops, but nothing unrealistic. I wouldn’t hate being capable of the occasional track day (I realize it isn’t a track car) but mostly some spirited drives. I do not currently own a Maverick at all.

I believe the lobo is a bit closer out of the box but will still need some modifications. I find the rear diff, transmission and steering rack as potentially the keys to this. But I don’t know much about the current. Open to anyone’s thoughts!

Thanks!

I'm going to wait until ford have more specification on the Ford manual to see what can be done. About the rear diff. And climate control well you probably will need to buy the new apim and screen and acm to enable all that options.

 

[Amizzy30]

Oh maybe this wasn’t clear. Not entirely to go 2024 modded to be a lobo. But more so either as a starting point.

ps. I spent a ton of time reviewing your build thread, very impressive. A lot of my plans are based a fair bit off what you’ve done (although I’m definitely not as electrically skilled).

 

[Vtec87pr1]

Oh maybe this wasn’t clear. Not entirely to go 2024 modded to be a lobo. But more so either as a starting point.

ps. I spent a ton of time reviewing your build thread, very impressive. A lot of my plans are based a fair bit off what you’ve done (although I’m definitely not as electrically skilled).

If you have any questions let me know I try my best to help.

 

[colinl]

It depends on what you've done already and what goals you have for the truck. For the OP, since he doesn't have a Maverick at all yet, I would say starting with a Lobo is a very good idea. If you don't want/need the Lariat features, or don't want to spend $41.5K+ for a Lobo 702A, you can wait until December to order a Lobo 402A which will be XLT-based and should start at 35k. it will have cloth seats, rest of interior the same, no moonroof (a win, for me), no slide rear window, no B&O sound (another win, I want to install my own system), and no adaptive cruise control. ACC is the only thing I'd miss.

Assuming that the SCCA classes the Maverick Lobo, it can compete in a stock class. Any 22-24 Maverick cannot, because it isn't classed and it won't pass the track width vs vehicle height requirement, which was actually created to screen out high performance SUVs and trucks due to the possibility of a rollover.

Any MY25 Maverick ecoboost probably can be modified for E85 and E50 for more power, more easily than the older engines because the new engine has both port- and direct-injection.

 

[Amizzy30]

It depends on what you've done already and what goals you have for the truck. For the OP, since he doesn't have a Maverick at all yet, I would say starting with a Lobo is a very good idea. If you don't want/need the Lariat features, or don't want to spend $41.5K+ for a Lobo 702A, you can wait until December to order a Lobo 402A which will be XLT-based and should start at 35k. it will have cloth seats, rest of interior the same, no moonroof (a win, for me), no slide rear window, no B&O sound (another win, I want to install my own system), and no adaptive cruise control. ACC is the only thing I'd miss.

Assuming that the SCCA classes the Maverick Lobo, it can compete in a stock class. Any 22-24 Maverick cannot, because it isn't classed and it won't pass the track width vs vehicle height requirement, which was actually created to screen out high performance SUVs and trucks due to the possibility of a rollover.

Any MY25 Maverick ecoboost probably can be modified for E85 and E50 for more power, more easily than the older engines because the new engine has both port- and direct-injection.

Thanks for the reply & info!

 

[Amizzy30]

Thanks for the response. While things are increasingly more electrically integrated. I don’t believe I’ve needed intense electrical inclination to do anything I’ve done in the past to prior vehicles involving suspension or drivetrain. But I know my limits and when to bring in a pro.

I’m never worried about getting my money back out of modifications. I’m quite aware of the realities of modifying a vehicle. Lobo or not, it will be modified. But I appreciate the heads up and response regardless!

 

[Amizzy30]

All good on the ranger info, I appreciate it! It’s something worth considering. I like the Maverick more generally than the rangers but it is a good thing to consider!

 

[colinl]

you definitely could not take a Ranger on the track, ever. the other issue with your plan is that if you want a fast Ranger for the street it is a huge mistake not to just start with the Raptor. The Explorer ST crowd has proven that the 3.0tt is capable of crazy numbers with only a E50 tune.

if you wanted to do a track day with a new Lobo:

1) new tires - I have yet to see a DOT R compound that fits, so probably this is a 245/50-19 summer tire. you could have the TireRack shave it before shipping, if you wanted. yes, they do that.

2) new brake pads - I would go extremely aggressive and just swap them before & after rather than trying a 'street' compound.

3) motul 660 brake fluid.

I think JB4 is going to be the first to support the new Maverick ecoboost. They were one of the first to support the '22, because they're an interceptor and they don't need to crack the ECU to reflash it. JB4 has E50 and E85 tunes on certain platforms that can actually support that from the factory. It'll be interesting to see what happens Spring - Summer next year with the new engine.

 

[colinl]

that's a reasonable opinion, but let's not forget that the Focus ST and RS are gone. the only street performance vehicles Ford has left are the Mustang, Mach-E (LOL), and Explorer ST.

I think Ford actually does care about the Lobo being useful on tarmac. We'll find out!

 

[Amizzy30]

I getcha. I’m not expecting a track machine. More of a hey I have an opportunity, let’s have some fun.
If I go this route it would be getting rid of my vehicle that can track & daily(Veloster n) and then eventually get a dedicated track solution. id just like the Maverick to be a decent party on the street and be capable of a good, fun spirited drive. Which seems like it is reasonable ish. I think lol!

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