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Yes both forscan and the Cobb accessport have the ability to alter tire size BUT the PCM module has a limit to the maximum size you can enter and when you go beyond that it throws AWD, pre-collision, and a handful of other faults. That said, I was unable to get my 245/70/17 size into the PCM through forscan, but with the accessport even though it threw a fit when I would go past 29.6" my speedo is perfect all the way up to and past 80 at the maximum setting I could get it to take. It required resetting the learning and such through the accessport as well. I suspect that is because the PCM and AWD modules receive their settings from the body control module, and if they don't agree it goes bonkers. The limiting factor is still the PCM maximum setting though. It for some reason has a hard cap that it will accept.

Lastly, with my 245/70/17 Wildpeak AT3Ws I regularly see 31+/-mpg running eco mode on the highway at 65-70 in Washington state and if I am not hooning around, about 23 in normal mode (Cobb tuned, 80% city), and was 24ish before the tune, all on 91 octane. (FX4 lariat non tow pkg, added sport and eco).

For those folks using 245/70/17 tires, is lifting the truck a necessity or a preference? My '24 Mav is my first truck and therefore the first vehicle I am thinking about doing suspension and tires mods to. New to these ideas and trying to do some research. I've heard that rubbing can occur. Please advise!
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For those folks using 245/70/17 tires, is lifting the truck a necessity or a preference? My '24 Mav is my first truck and therefore the first vehicle I am thinking about doing suspension and tires mods to. New to these ideas and trying to do some research. I've heard that rubbing can occur. Please advise!
Very little rubbing. Only very slight to the felt wheel well liners in front at full turn. You rarely have the wheels turned that hard except when doing three-point turns or U-turns at low speed. Also, zero rubbing in rear.

As to whether lifting is "necessary," well, no, it's never necessary. 245/70 tires will lift your truck about an inch. If that's sufficient for you, that's sufficient for you. For me, and many others, it is not for our application.

Best of luck to you with your truck!
 

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Very little rubbing. Only very slight to the felt wheel well liners in front at full turn. You rarely have the wheels turned that hard except when doing three-point turns or U-turns at low speed. Also, zero rubbing in rear.

As to whether lifting is "necessary," well, no, it's never necessary. 245/70 tires will lift your truck about an inch. If that's sufficient for you, that's sufficient for you. For me, and many others, it is not for our application.

Best of luck to you with your truck!
Great feedback, thanks!
 

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I think you're beyond me in your capabilities as in not certain what you are even saying!

The Forscan only let me go as high as 235/65 on the tire size. So I still have some discrepancy on the speedo of about 5%.

The good news is I imagine I'm also logging 5% fewer miles on the odometer!
ha ha. I was asking if the forscan can compensate for the larger tire size like my diag-FCA software can for my patriot. Seems like the answer is no. Now, that being said, for the first year I had the software, I could not go beyond the 225 tire size, now I have 235/65/17 set in the computer and it runs perfect. Previously, the shift points and speedo were way off causing crappy drivability. Now's she's back to good!
 

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Very little rubbing. Only very slight to the felt wheel well liners in front at full turn. You rarely have the wheels turned that hard except when doing three-point turns or U-turns at low speed. Also, zero rubbing in rear.

As to whether lifting is "necessary," well, no, it's never necessary. 245/70 tires will lift your truck about an inch. If that's sufficient for you, that's sufficient for you. For me, and many others, it is not for our application.

Best of luck to you with your truck!
I just got that same size tire and the guy that installed them said I should take a box cutter to the felt so that it doesnt rub or my truck could catch on fire. Im hesitant to do that. Have you run into any issues with the slight rubbing?
 

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TLDR: A 2-Inch Lift and Oversizes All-Terrain Tires will Cost You Roughly 2 mpg vs. Stock. Read on for full details...

OK, since I installed 2-inch Eibach lift springs and Firestone Destination AT 245/70/17 tires on my 2022 XLT FX4 4K Tow, lots of folks have asked about real-world fuel economy. However, I needed to wait until I had a chance to do some significant highway driving in order to calculate it accurately. This week, I'm on a college tour with my 11th-grade son. So, I've had the chance to do long stretches of Interstate on relatively flat ground at various speeds. What follows is an in-depth explanation of my findings, starting with a VERY IMPORTANT note.

NOTE: Due to the oversized tires, both the speedometer and odometer on the truck are not accurate. The speedo reads roughly 2 mph slow at highway speeds, while I measured the odometer reading roughly 18.8-18.9 miles traveled over 20 miles of measured mile on the Interstate. This measurement is EXTREMELY important when calculating fuel economy, since there is a 5.5-6% discrepancy between how far I've actually driven and how far the truck thinks I've driven. In other words, fuel economy displayed by the on-board computer is going to be 5.5-6% lower than actual fuel economy (and that's assuming all else is properly calibrated).

Anyway, with that important explanation given, here's what I've come up with.

LEGAL HIGHWAY SPEED: 28.5 mpg actual
With my cruise control set at 60 mph, the truck computer gives me a fuel economy of 27 mpg. Factoring in the discrepancy for the speedometer and odometer, this results in actual fuel economy of roughly 28.5 mpg at 62 mph.

SPEEDING HIGHWAY SPEED: 23 mpg actual
I typically cruise at 75 mph on trips such as this, and one thing I noticed is that you really give us A LOT of fuel economy as your speed increases from 60 to 70 mph. RPMs on my engine go from about 1,500 to 2,000 during that 10 mph increase, and displayed fuel economy drops from 27 mpg to less than 21 mpg. Factoring in the odometer discrepancy, and also using my manual calculations from 300+ miles of driving, I come up with an actual fuel economy at these speeds of roughly 23 mpg.

So, the bottom line is this: If you drive very conservatively (I added Eco mode to my FX4 with Forscan and used it during this testing) at highway speeds, it appears you can approach the EPA rated 29 mpg highway even with a lift kit and oversized tires. However, mileage drops off considerably as you increase speed between 60 and 70 mph, and you'll likely give up 5-7 mpg over just a 10 mph speed difference. My guess is this is where the lessened aerodynamics of the lifted truck and wider road contact patch of the tires really start to take a toll.

Interestingly, it's worth noting that from 70-80 mph, I did not see nearly as much of a dropoff in fuel economy as I did between 60 and 70 mph. So, perhaps the moral of the story is if you're going to speed, don't sweat it over a few extra mph! LOL

Hope that proves helpful/informative to others who may have lifted trucks or considering doing so. Personally, I'd say the loss is well worth it for my personal taste in aesthetics and plans to use the truck for hunting, camping, etc. Still a heck of a lot better than V8 Escalade I was driving before the Maverick, and a heck of a lot better looking too!

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Did you get the front spring only kit or the four spring kit? I’m looking at this myself but see several options. Great post and photos. Truck looks great
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