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Thanks for this tip! I was about ready to give up on my ELM327, but this seemed to do the trick.

No argument here. This sounded like a dreamy thread so just adding to that 😃 Realisticlty though, I would look for a compromise so that dealers still get a token amount that is much better than going out of business. My initial pitch would just be to divide high information customers from the...

Yes, give us self service ordering and self checkout process. Dealer can collect standard margin with less staff and better customer experience for people like us here.

I went to WM today with the mav I’ve had for a few days now. This whole scenario was playing through my head before I even saw the post 😀. I thought about squeezing in close but stayed further back and luckily I made it out ok.

I had this same curiosity before I took delivery. Now that I’ve had the truck a few days I’ve been leaving it default and is not bothering me so far. The ecoboost engine is pretty quiet at idle so the noise difference isn’t as noticeable as I expected.

Got my call yesterday that the truck came in, so it took 4 weeks for shipping. I went to my dealer for a test drive and to "talk business". The latter part was more anxiety-filled than needed to be but I'll save that rant for another thread. Now, I'll wait a couple more days for their local...

I got the shipped email this morning, the tracker now shows the shipped date of 07/31/2023. Not sure if they work any weekends but seems took just one business day from built to shipped.

Woohoo, it looks like mine got built yesterday. I just checked the tracker but had no comms from Ford or the dealer since our scheduling notice. Excitement is building, but now the long train ride from Mexico to New England awaits. Anyone else from the 6/15 group on board?

From what I remember from microeconomics class, the optimal price is the one where Ford sells exactly what it can produce without excess inventory (until more capacity is created) and they are a for-profit company. It's pretty clear that since inception the price has been low as they had more...

Yeah, mine went from 7/24 to 7/27, which is from Monday to Thursday in the same week. Just looking at the patterns in this thread I think the initial scheduling emails that came out on 6/15 were all Monday dates which went with the verbiage "week of". Perhaps when our trackers are updated, it...

Gas mileage was not a concern for me. I'm coming from a 2011 Tundra that gets about 15mpg combined, so anything either would do better. Plus I most often work from home. When I do do out I want to be able to get through snow and would like to keep the ability to tow a reasonable portion of what...

Thanks all for asking/answering this. I had the same question but didn't ask or research too far. After reading people's general sentiments here, I stopped worrying about the accuracy of most anything presented in Ford's updates :D

So is it Gray or Grey? :p I'm waiting for mine and the tracker can't decide!

Haha. Those status emails reek of a large bureaucracy. From all accounts, the “we’re sorry” department doesn’t speak to the production status department.

On the bright side, at least the immediate depreciation factor for a used car is not as bad today as it was historically. I’m not sure what kind of taxes you are in for with your state but hopefully you could get out close to break even either way.

Wow, I can't believe my eyes right now. The email came in! ⏰ 10:46 EDT 📅 July 24, 2023 🔢 3FTTW8F94PRA768xx 🛻 XLT AWD, Cactus Gray, 4k tow, Floor Liners w/mats 📍 Southern New Hampshire 🗓 9/17/2022 🕺 Ford of Londonderry

yeah, maybe it’s shorthand for “window dressing”

Agree. Tim/LM is a very helpful resource but I’m a long way from Kansas. I should not be punished as Ford’s end consumer because there are no middlemen (dealers) as good in my region. If I take this to its extreme, in order for all consumers to compete fairly, we should all just order from one...

the current system does seems to reinforce some bad behaviors. The larger volume dealer nearby allegedly had employees putting in orders to turn over as stock. Meanwhile the more honest but lower volume but more relationship guys ordered less but legit and received less so far this year. They...

I spoke to my dealer last week about my order status and when I brought up July ordering he denied the date was accurate. He questioned my source of information and said he was on a conference call where they mentioned it could actually be August or later. Not sure what to believe but my dealer...