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How about the 6000+ orders that just had a VIN and got rolled over to 2023. Likely all have been waiting a year+ including myself. I see you have just joined MTC. It may be worth looking at some of the historical posts related to wait times and rollovers. Ford.com closed 2022 hybrid orders in mid fall of 2021 while Ford.ca was into early 2022. Anyone who ordered in the US and hasn't yet received their Maverick are all over a year. A year may not be the average overall, but I don't think it's that far off.
Over 400 days with a base XL hybrid with only a drop-in bedliner. Latest phoney build date is January 16 which is number TWELVE build date since early August. Just pathetic.
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I spent 8 years working for Chrysler in supply. Going too diverse in an unstable world is not good management. Claiming that others are too stupid to “understand” is the height of unfounded arrogance
What does that even mean ? 🤦‍♂️ Your post #92 already exposed your complete lack of understanding of the the basics of how purchasing, acquisition, and fulfillment works in all companies large and small.
 

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One only knows this if they are connected customers. What about the non-connected relying on Ford or Dealer communications? Amazon would be out of business if they did not communicate. But auto manufactures should get a pass. Really?
The huge majority of folks who ordered, and in many cases put down $500 deposits, have never heard of this site or Tim Bartz. Ford created a system that dealers have little to no idea how to navigate. There are thousands of people with orders that were never covp. And who knows how many folks have received no updates from Ford or the salesmen . Some have contacted the dealers who were giving out wrong information, sometimes due to Ford giving out wrong info. to dealers. Who knows how many 2021 people are waiting for deliveries on orders that were never completed or lost through this fiasco.
 

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Over 400 days with a base XL hybrid with only a drop-in bedliner. Latest phoney build date is January 16 which is number TWELVE build date since early August. Just pathetic.
376 days and counting for me.
 

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I wouldn’t bet the ranch, but there is at least a 30 percent chance you should be ok by 2124.
I don't have a ranch; and if I did I wouldn't bet it. If not by 24; it may be too late for me.
 

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I think your situation is fairly uncommon for hybrid orders. I think the average wait will be over a year.
I was told maybe by 2030
 
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I don't have a ranch; and if I did I wouldn't bet it. If not by 24; it may be too late for me.
By then there will be other options, like the new Toyota
 

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Supply chain issues are still very real. Only people not involved with dealing with supply chain regularly would say otherwise. I am a VP with a commercial General Contractor. I daily deal with difficulties procuring materials. Joists are 6-8 month lead times. RTUs for anything but the most run of the mill ones are 50 weeks. Glass, 20 weeks. Switchgear, 60 weeks. Water meter yokes... they don't even know. None anywhere, haven't been in 6 months.

Just because Covid is starting to settle doesn't mean these things have gone away.
 

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Supply chain issues are still very real. Only people not involved with dealing with supply chain regularly would say otherwise. I am a VP with a commercial General Contractor. I daily deal with difficulties procuring materials. Joists are 6-8 month lead times. RTUs for anything but the most run of the mill ones are 50 weeks. Glass, 20 weeks. Switchgear, 60 weeks. Water meter yokes... they don't even know. None anywhere, haven't been in 6 months.

Just because Covid is starting to settle doesn't mean these things have gone away.
Not discounting supply chain issues. But when Ford says they will build 150k Lightnings next year, then I don't see why they can't build 50k hybrid mavericks if they wanted to.
 

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Not discounting supply chain issues. But when Ford says they will build 150k Lightnings next year, then I don't see why they can't build 50k hybrid mavericks if they wanted to.
Different area of discussion really. That is a matter of resources and manufacturing logistics. It is a valid conversation; should they be moving more resources from other vehicles to support the Maverick? I am not a Ford executive, not my call. Tough calls are made every day in those area, and I'm sure they wish they had the resources to support all the vehicles fully because that would be more money made.

But my response was more geared to the crowd saying supply chain issues aren't there. They are very real still. One can disagree with the response to them, but to discount them completely is ignoring the major issues companies are having to tackle every day.
 
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It was only a problem when the global supply chain took a dump. Otherwise nobody complained. Every manufacturer these days runs on lean production which is why they're all hurting. It is trending back to normal albeit very slowly but there's no use in stockpiling parts when the economy could take a dive at any minute just to make YOU happy. I don't blame Ford, nor do I work for them or any of their suppliers. I'm just realistic and have common sense.
The possibility of an economic nose dive is always and always has been there. You keep a good supply on hand so you can make your product. Pinching pennies with just in time inventory gets you the mess there is now. How much has Ford…and others lost by not being able to produce cars since they buy from unreliable companies in unreliable countries and try to have parts arrive at the last minute? This is what they get, and hacked off customers.
 
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The possibility of an economic nose dive is always and always has been there. You keep a good supply on hand so you can make your product. Pinching pennies with just in time inventory gets you the mess there is now. How much has Ford…and others lost by not being able to produce cars since they buy from unreliable companies in unreliable countries and try to have parts arrive at the last minute? This is what they get, and hacked off customers.
Those who subscribe to the cutesy, but defective theories always think they are all knowing and superior…till they get their termination notices
 

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The possibility of an economic nose dive is always and always has been there. You keep a good supply on hand so you can make your product. Pinching pennies with just in time inventory gets you the mess there is now. How much has Ford…and others lost by not being able to produce cars since they buy from unreliable companies in unreliable countries and try to have parts arrive at the last minute? This is what they get, and hacked off customers.
JIT was perfected by the Japanese. I believe almost every industry used that model, not just Ford. Covid impacts demonstrated the weakness of JIT. I'm not sure that "we" can or will return to the way things were done before JIT. To think added supply and warehousing can be undertaken worldwide now is not reasonable. I don't know what the solution is, do you?
 
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JIT was perfected by the Japanese. I believe almost every industry used that model, not just Ford. Covid impacts demonstrated the weakness of JIT. I'm not sure that "we" can or will return to the way things were done before JIT. To think added supply and warehousing can be undertaken worldwide now is not reasonable. I don't know what the solution is, do you?
It proves that the Japanese are not the all knowing, infallible gods some have made them out to be. If production is important, and it should be paramount to car companies, a certain amount of stockpiling is necessary, especially high value parts. Never, in the 8 years I was at Chrysler, did we have a shut down because of lack of parts. Sure it wasn’t as cutesy and fashionable to stockpile, but it worked. My insurance agent has a customer with a Maverick needing a new grill. 8 months and the truck sits in the shop. No parts available. A stockpile should have been made by Ford.
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