New Motortrend Review: 2022 Maverick Pros and Cons Review: A Small Truck With a Big Impact [w/ Acceleration Numbers]

[TacoHolder]

Sure there are a some caveats in the data, but there was a bit of talk on the forum a while ago about how the hybrid would be worse than the EB (or downright bad) for merging and passing. This data seems to contradict those assumptions.

Completely agree about people pooping on the hybrid engine for no good reason (we all know that none of them have driven one). People also crap on CVTs, but they do a great job of making the most out of an engine. Many reviews say the hybrid actually punches better than the hp/torque numbers suggest. It's the EB that they find a bit disappointing.

The shills on this forum will also tell you that the base Santa Cruz engine is terrible and that makes the Maverick superior when configured to be priced comparably. I test drove one the other day and was left pretty impressed.

People formulate opinions based on speculation and refuse to admit they were wrong. Welcome to the Internet.

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[Darnon]

This isn't possible via physics, unless something else is wearing additionally morseo on the hybrid (the electric regen system)

Entirely physically possible. The electric motors can also act as generators. Apply a load to a generator (such as charging the high voltage battery) and it becomes harder to turn, slowing the vehicle. Some is turned into heat through inefficiencies in the conversion, but the majority can be recaptured for use driving the vehicle later. This is a large factor of hybrid efficiency.

 

[mdl20813]

My biggest takeaway is that I apparently did not buy the package that gave you doors big enough to store bicycles in them. I had to settle for 1L water bottles…

 

[Larrythelunatic]

New motortrend review: 2022 Ford Maverick Pros and Cons Review: A Small Truck With a Big Impact (motortrend.com)

Interesting piece is they list their 0-90 times by 10mph intervals, and it appears as though the hybrid is faster from 60-90 and 45-65. Begs the question: Hybrid better for passing on the highway?

ACCELERATION TO MPH	Hybrid	EB AWD 4K
0-30	2.9 sec	2.3 sec
0-40	4.2	3.5
0-50	5.7	5.2
0-60	7.6	7.0
0-70	9.8	9.4
0-80	12.5	12.4
0-90	16.0	15.8
0-100	-	-
PASSING, 45-65 MPH	3.7	3.8

New motortrend review: 2022 Ford Maverick Pros and Cons Review: A Small Truck With a Big Impact (motortrend.com)

Interesting piece is they list their 0-90 times by 10mph intervals, and it appears as though the hybrid is faster from 60-90 and 45-65. Begs the question: Hybrid better for passing on the highway?

ACCELERATION TO MPH	Hybrid	EB AWD 4K
0-30	2.9 sec	2.3 sec
0-40	4.2	3.5
0-50	5.7	5.2
0-60	7.6	7.0
0-70	9.8	9.4
0-80	12.5	12.4
0-90	16.0	15.8
0-100	-	-
PASSING, 45-65 MPH	3.7	3.8

Do the numbers from 30 to 80, or to 90……….
Hybrid wins both.
Except for red light dragging, the hybrid is quicker.
This kind of surprises me, as the electric motor gives full torque from 1 rpm, while the gasser is still spooling up.
QUOTE="brnpttmn, post: 130521, member: 2443"]
New motortrend review: 2022 Ford Maverick Pros and Cons Review: A Small Truck With a Big Impact (motortrend.com)

Interesting piece is they list their 0-90 times by 10mph intervals, and it appears as though the hybrid is faster from 60-90 and 45-65. Begs the question: Hybrid better for passing on the highway?

ACCELERATION TO MPH	Hybrid	EB AWD 4K
0-30	2.9 sec	2.3 sec
0-40	4.2	3.5
0-50	5.7	5.2
0-60	7.6	7.0
0-70	9.8	9.4
0-80	12.5	12.4
0-90	16.0	15.8
0-100	-	-
PASSING, 45-65 MPH	3.7	3.8

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[Mikknj]

I've read the Motor Trend review over & find a couple things, first the curb weight of this EB Maverick is 3900lbs! I don't know how it can get that heavy, but with every available option, I guess, that will slow it down a bit, they said using regular gas, will slow it down a bit, & no mention of the modes, so using normal mode, those 3 will put a damper on acceleration. None of us are buying the Maverick for a race vehicle, but we have seen a couple members & other tests that have produced 0-60 times of 6.2-6.6 & 1/4 mile times of 14.8-14.9, THAT is a huge difference from the MT test, putting it much quicker than the hybrid. The best I have seen from a hybrid test is 7.4 & 15.9, which is very impressive for a hybrid/truck, & getting 36-38mpg normal driving is making me think I should have gone with the hybrid model.

I agree. I thought the Hybrid was going to be a dog... It is after all the BASE engine

 

[Newtotrucksvt]

New motortrend review: 2022 Ford Maverick Pros and Cons Review: A Small Truck With a Big Impact (motortrend.com)

Interesting piece is they list their 0-90 times by 10mph intervals, and it appears as though the hybrid is faster from 60-90 and 45-65. Begs the question: Hybrid better for passing on the highway?

ACCELERATION TO MPH	Hybrid	EB AWD 4K
0-30	2.9 sec	2.3 sec
0-40	4.2	3.5
0-50	5.7	5.2
0-60	7.6	7.0
0-70	9.8	9.4
0-80	12.5	12.4
0-90	16.0	15.8
0-100	-	-
PASSING, 45-65 MPH	3.7	3.8

Is this in the hybrid's sport mode? Or "normal" setting?

 

[WesM]

For sure! Who wouldn't look at the hybrid if towing and awd were available?

However, a lot of people want performance. What would happen if they designed a hybrid system with performance and power as the main consideration? It would kick ass and still be more efficient than than and equivalent ICE vehicle.

You would get a RAV4 prime.

"Base" curb weights according to Ford (assuming XL with no options)
https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North America/US/product/2022/maverick/pdf/2022-Ford-Maverick-Technical-Specifications.pdf

Hybrid - 3674 lbs.
EB FWD - 3562 lbs. (112 lbs. lighter than Hybrid)
EB AWD - 3731 lbs. (57 lbs. heavier than Hybrid, 169 lbs. heavier than EB FWD)

It's a shame for the speed demons on this forum that the 4K FWD got axed because it would certainly be the fastest configuration.

The as tested weight for the AWD Maverick in this test was almost 4k lbs, that had to play into the 0-60 and all other tested times pretty heavily.

Magnets and copper coils don't wear out.

Magnets do actually wear out. This is something I work with in my industry. Most typical applications for magnets just last the life or past the life of the assembly they are put in.

https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/mg24732911-800-does-magnetism-decay-over-time/

 

[brnpttmn]

Is this in the hybrid's sport mode? Or "normal" setting?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[brnpttmn]

Magnets do actually wear out. This is something I work with in my industry. Most typical applications for magnets just last the life or past the life of the assembly they are put in.

https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/mg24732911-800-does-magnetism-decay-over-time/

Sure. Literally everything wears out, but the magnets and copper coils not so much in this context.

 

[sbradford26]

I did a little research and I take back its not all the regen brakes its actually electric motor regen that works in conjunction with the regen brakes to slow quicker. Actually saves on the brake pads.

I recently had to replace the rotors on my 2017 Hyundai Ioniq with 66k miles on it. The mechanic told me the brake pads were at 50% life. The look on his face when I told him they were original pads was priceless. Sadly New England winter's rusted out the rotors, and I just decided to replace the pads along with them.

Probably could easily get 100k out of a set of brake pads if you live in a place where they don't dump salt on the roads.

 

[RustyF150]

might want to check your chart again.... the ONLY place it shows Hybrid faster is PASSING, 45-65 MPH, and that is only by .1 second? Side by side columns show EB faster every time

Actually, according to the chart, if you do the math, the Hybrid is .4 seconds quicker from 60 mph from 90 mph than the EB. ( Hybrid 16-7.6 = 8.4 / EB- 15.8-7 = 8.8 ) Granted, the EB is quicker to 60 mph than the Hybrid but not from 60 - 90.

 

[Old Ranchero]

Actually, according to the chart, if you do the math, the Hybrid is .4 seconds quicker from 60 mph from 90 mph than the EB. ( Hybrid 16-7.6 = 8.4 / EB- 15.8-7 = 8.8 ) Granted, the EB is quicker to 60 mph than the Hybrid but not from 60 - 90.

is there some reason you can't accept the data in the format provided by the testers? Side by side, head to head, the eco is faster in EVERY category. There IS NO "math" to do here- just data- and it doesn't lie. Apples to Apples is the only valid comparison- like how the data was presented in the chart.

 

[brnpttmn]

is there some reason you can't accept the data in the format provided by the testers? Side by side, head to head, the eco is faster in EVERY category. There IS NO "math" to do here- just data- and it doesn't lie. Apples to Apples is the only valid comparison- like how the data was presented in the chart.

Is there some reason you're so defensive about basic math? It's clear that, in this test, the hybrid was accelerating faster between 40mph and 80mph. That empirical data they're presenting. This test is is backed by their merging test and the 1/4 mile speed. Sorry if this offends your priors, but that is exactly what their data shows.

 

[Old Ranchero]

Is there some reason you're so defensive about basic math? It's clear that, in this test, the hybrid was accelerating faster between 40mph and 80mph. That empirical data they're presenting. This test is is backed by their merging test and the 1/4 mile speed. Sorry if this offends your priors, but that is exactly what their data shows.

OK perfersser Again they are presenting RAW data from actual testing in 10 MPH brackets. YOU are extrapolating that data trying to make/prove a point not intended by the authors. Maybe teach a couple math and econ classes in your spare time to scratch that itch instead of making nonsense arguments over test data that doesn't satisfy your hybrid lust?

What's your excuse for them outright saying the hybrid feels almost as quick as the ecoboost?

 

[brnpttmn]

OK perfersser Again they are presenting RAW data from actual testing in 10 MPH brackets. YOU are extrapolating that data trying to make/prove a point not intended by the authors. Maybe teach a couple math and econ classes in your spare time to scratch that itch instead of making nonsense arguments over test data that doesn't satisfy your hybrid lust?

What's your excuse for them outright saying the hybrid feels almost as quick as the ecoboost?

No I'm not. It's not extrapolating when you're analyzing the raw data. Extrapolating would be filling in the unknown variables for 0-10 and 0-20 categories. I'm analyzing the raw data. It's not hard to understand or interpret. YOU don't know the authors intentions, and they don't matter when they present the raw data.

They probably say the hybrid feel almost as quick because it's slower to 40mph. Now. Why would their passing test come out better for the hybrid? Why is the 1/4 mile speed faster for the hybrid?

Finally, maybe get a grip and stop attacking others because you lack basic understanding of math.

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