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Today I figured I would do a test and see what it would be like to haul one of my bikes. Granted my bikes are not as big as others have hauled but about as long.

I removed the Gator tri fold soft cover but left the bedrug mat in place. Next thing was to place metal struts that I had made to support the tailgate LEVEL (cables won't do that) because the short bed requires my motorcycle's rear wheel to sit on the tailgate. I had a 2002 Ford Sport Trac that also required that because it had a short bed too.

My Hybrid XLT Maverick payload it 1553 pounds including people and cargo. I use 2 long folding ramps, one to power the bike up into the bed and one for me to walk on to balance it at it goes up the other ramp. Getting a bike off does not require the bike running but I still use 2 ramps.

I tested my lightest (400 pounds) first, was a 1988 Honda Hawk GT650 (I also have an 89)that I have towed on a trailer and in my old Sport Trac. After loading and tying it down, I drove around the area for about 10 miles. The Maverick ran like nothing was in the back which I truly expected out of it.

When I got back home and unloaded the Hawk, I wanted to test my new (Last June) Honda 1100 Rebel DCT. It runs 502 pounds. I had never loaded it on a trailer or in a truck since I bought it. So, this was a FIRST. I parked it in the bed with at a little more angle because the wheelbase was about an inch longer. The rear tire rested close to center of the tailgate and closer to the right side. I did not tie it down and drive with it in the back. I can say that now I know that my little hybrid IS A TRUCK and can haul any of my 3 bikes.

Ford Maverick My real truck can haul my motorcycles w/ help of custom metal tailgate support and level struts IMG_7714.JPG


Ford Maverick My real truck can haul my motorcycles w/ help of custom metal tailgate support and level struts IMG_7721.JPG





Following writeup on tailgate support for hauling motorcycles (or loads) with tailgate level is copied from my other thread:

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/tailgate-support-for-hauling-motorcycles-or-loads-with-tailgate-level.8510/

I had made a set for my Sport Trac because the short bed required my motorcycles to rest the bike's rear tire on the tailgate. These supports firmed that up and removed the weight on the cables. Commercial ones are available for some trucks but cost typically 99.00 a pair.

Today I build a set for my Maverick which I have not hauled a bike in yet but plan to do that soon. I will post a picture once I have a bike loaded.

I started with the same scrap 1/8-inch thick aluminum angle pieces from an Army Surplus store south of town that I had used before. I needed more so found more and paid 2.00 for each length of aluminum. I used 2 in this project.

Picture of support with bottom not attached gives you an idea that the tailgate will have to come up some for the bolt to line up. Once the bolt is out it is easy to align the holes. Yes, I made them so the tailgate will be level when in use. The factory straps will not be supporting any weight but still attached for safety.

Ford Maverick My real truck can haul my motorcycles w/ help of custom metal tailgate support and level struts brace-



These pictures show how I made the top attachment. They slide on then down prior to bolting the bottom in place. The bent over tang keeps the top part from moving toward the large end.

Ford Maverick My real truck can haul my motorcycles w/ help of custom metal tailgate support and level struts img_7699-


Ford Maverick My real truck can haul my motorcycles w/ help of custom metal tailgate support and level struts img_7698-



The bottom end has the top cut to clear the bed and duct tape on the inside to protect the paint when bolted in place by the one of the tailgate bolts that holds the tailgate latch in place. At star Allen head tool is required to remove the bolt and tighten it back down. The material was already narrowed at this end by the bolt but should still be plenty strong.

Ford Maverick My real truck can haul my motorcycles w/ help of custom metal tailgate support and level struts img_7697-
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Looks I could fit my Sportster 72 in the bed with no issues then, maybe. I'd have to check my overall length to be sure. I'd definitely would have to angle the Sporty in for sure. Thanks for the pictures and the test!
 

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Today I figured I would do a test and see what it would be like to haul one of my bikes. Granted my bikes are not as big as others have hauled but about as long.

I removed the Gator tri fold soft cover but left the bedrug mat in place. Next thing was to place metal struts that I had made to support the tailgate LEVEL (cables won't do that) because the short bed requires my motorcycle's rear wheel to sit on the tailgate. I had a 2002 Ford Sport Trac that also required that because it had a short bed too.

My Hybrid XLT Maverick payload it 1553 pounds including people and cargo. I use 2 long folding ramps, one to power the bike up into the bed and one for me to walk on to balance it at it goes up the other ramp. Getting a bike off does not require the bike running but I still use 2 ramps.

I tested my lightest (400 pounds) first, was a 1988 Honda Hawk GT650 (I also have an 89)that I have towed on a trailer and in my old Sport Trac. After loading and tying it down, I drove around the area for about 10 miles. The Maverick ran like nothing was in the back which I truly expected out of it.

When I got back home and unloaded the Hawk, I wanted to test my new (Last June) Honda 1100 Rebel DCT. It runs 502 pounds. I had never loaded it on a trailer or in a truck since I bought it. So, this was a FIRST. I parked it in the bed with at a little more angle because the wheelbase was about an inch longer. The rear tire rested close to center of the tailgate and closer to the right side. I did not tie it down and drive with it in the back. I can say that now I know that my little hybrid IS A TRUCK and can haul any of my 3 bikes.

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VERY smart bracing it with those cross bars. Only thing I would keep an eye on is if the tailgate skin that is it sitting on at the rear tire, begins to concave due to the weight and any vertical weight when going over speed bumps, exiting driveways, etc. (Tacoma experience with a heavy bike experience) Nice job!
 
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VERY smart bracing it with those cross bars. Only thing I would keep an eye on is if the tailgate skin that is it sitting on at the rear tire, begins to concave due to the weight and any vertical weight when going over speed bumps, exiting driveways, etc. (Tacoma experience with a heavy bike experience) Nice job!
Thanks.

I have thought about the load on the Sheetmetal itself. Our cheap truck's skin seems strong but thin. The tailgate is rated at 400 pounds, I think. It's got quite a bit of indents forming ridges that ad strength also.

Lucky my bikes are light. 400 pounds for one and 500 for the other. So, weight per tire is roughly half with a little added force by the tie downs. I could put a support plate in that area to spread the weight over a larger area. Something like maybe 1/4 by 12 by 16 plate steel. Another solution is that I have another loading ramp that is steel, and I could put that under both wheels in the bed which would spread the weight evenly over a long narrow area of the bed and over the tailgate too. I don't haul bikes very often (about 4 times a year and less than 300 miles)so that might help too.
 

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there may be times i throw my bike in the bed of the truck as well, would you be interested in getting me a set of these tailgate supports like you have? very interested.
 

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Today I figured I would do a test and see what it would be like to haul one of my bikes. Granted my bikes are not as big as others have hauled but about as long.

I removed the Gator tri fold soft cover but left the bedrug mat in place. Next thing was to place metal struts that I had made to support the tailgate LEVEL (cables won't do that) because the short bed requires my motorcycle's rear wheel to sit on the tailgate. I had a 2002 Ford Sport Trac that also required that because it had a short bed too.

My Hybrid XLT Maverick payload it 1553 pounds including people and cargo. I use 2 long folding ramps, one to power the bike up into the bed and one for me to walk on to balance it at it goes up the other ramp. Getting a bike off does not require the bike running but I still use 2 ramps.

I tested my lightest (400 pounds) first, was a 1988 Honda Hawk GT650 (I also have an 89)that I have towed on a trailer and in my old Sport Trac. After loading and tying it down, I drove around the area for about 10 miles. The Maverick ran like nothing was in the back which I truly expected out of it.

When I got back home and unloaded the Hawk, I wanted to test my new (Last June) Honda 1100 Rebel DCT. It runs 502 pounds. I had never loaded it on a trailer or in a truck since I bought it. So, this was a FIRST. I parked it in the bed with at a little more angle because the wheelbase was about an inch longer. The rear tire rested close to center of the tailgate and closer to the right side. I did not tie it down and drive with it in the back. I can say that now I know that my little hybrid IS A TRUCK and can haul any of my 3 bikes.

IMG_7714.JPG


IMG_7721.JPG





Following writeup on tailgate support for hauling motorcycles (or loads) with tailgate level is copied from my other thread:

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/tailgate-support-for-hauling-motorcycles-or-loads-with-tailgate-level.8510/

I had made a set for my Sport Trac because the short bed required my motorcycles to rest the bike's rear tire on the tailgate. These supports firmed that up and removed the weight on the cables. Commercial ones are available for some trucks but cost typically 99.00 a pair.

Today I build a set for my Maverick which I have not hauled a bike in yet but plan to do that soon. I will post a picture once I have a bike loaded.

I started with the same scrap 1/8-inch thick aluminum angle pieces from an Army Surplus store south of town that I had used before. I needed more so found more and paid 2.00 for each length of aluminum. I used 2 in this project.

Picture of support with bottom not attached gives you an idea that the tailgate will have to come up some for the bolt to line up. Once the bolt is out it is easy to align the holes. Yes, I made them so the tailgate will be level when in use. The factory straps will not be supporting any weight but still attached for safety.

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These pictures show how I made the top attachment. They slide on then down prior to bolting the bottom in place. The bent over tang keeps the top part from moving toward the large end.

img_7699-jpg.jpg


img_7698-jpg.jpg



The bottom end has the top cut to clear the bed and duct tape on the inside to protect the paint when bolted in place by the one of the tailgate bolts that holds the tailgate latch in place. At star Allen head tool is required to remove the bolt and tighten it back down. The material was already narrowed at this end by the bolt but should still be plenty strong.

img_7697-jpg.jpg
Great to see the results of your tests loading your Rebel to your truck's bed diagonally, which is exactly what I should be doing when my Hybrid is delivered in the near future. Thanks for posting!
 

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I have a Hawk GT and was planning on doing a tailgate hitch carry if I wanted to bring it with me on longer biz trips. Cool to see how it fits in the bed, not bad!
 

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Nice seeing a bike in the back, but man, why so many straps LOL

Two soft loops on the upper triple tree, and tied down with some compression. Boom. All ya need. (Source- too many tack days to count)
 
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Nice seeing a bike in the back, but man, why so many straps LOL

Two soft loops on the upper triple tree, and tied down with some compression. Boom. All ya need. (Source- too many tack days to count)
I am fine with you using 2. You are doing what works for you. I have had this conversation a few times over my 58 years of motorcycle riding. I'm sure you have many years in too.

I choose to lock it down pretty good with how ever many straps I'm comfortable with. Never less than 4. I hit the road running and often travel twisty mountain roads. I've never done a track day but on the 3 bikes I own, I rode over 10,700 miles last year.
 
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I have a Hawk GT and was planning on doing a tailgate hitch carry if I wanted to bring it with me on longer biz trips. Cool to see how it fits in the bed, not bad!
The tongue weight if using hitch carry on a Hybrid Maverick would not handle the Hawk's 400 pounds. I have a friend with a truck that he often carries bikes around 500 pounds in weight on his hitch carrier.


That Blue Hawk is pretty special and was recently a Hawk of the Month on the Hawk forum. I also have a Red 89 which I have owned about 7 years. It has a rare Kossman front wheel, Hord built front forks, jet kit, pods, penske rear shock. Really fun in the mountains.
 
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there may be times i throw my bike in the bed of the truck as well, would you be interested in getting me a set of these tailgate supports like you have? very interested.
Get some angle aluminum (flat might work too). You need a tape measure, a drill and bits, a file, a hacksaw and a vice.
 

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What is the point of this? Are the cables not rated to take that load? If so, why would you go to a rigid mount instead of just replacing the cables? I can only imagine you are doing this for loading and unloading purposes, since that's the only time the tailgate would see any amount of weight from you or the motorcycle. I have never seen this before, so I am curious is all.
 
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What is the point of this? Are the cables not rated to take that load? If so, why would you go to a rigid mount instead of just replacing the cables? I can only imagine you are doing this for loading and unloading purposes, since that's the only time the tailgate would see any amount of weight from you or the motorcycle. I have never seen this before, so I am curious is all.
If you do a search on Amazon for "Tailgate Support Bar". Many are advertised and list reasons for their usage. Mine only cost me 4.00 and some time not 99.00.

I don't know of any replacement cables available for the Maverick and if I were going to replace them, I would at least get a pair that holds the tailgate level with the bed as being a notable defect mentioned on the forum. My supports make the tailgate LEVEL with the bed, and I like that.

I think the factory supports would be strong enough and have no concerns there. The ability of the tailgate to pivot upward when hitting unseen potholes is not possible with my supports.

Apparently, you did not see the motorcycles resting on the tailgate loaded int the bed of the truck. My supports are not for loading or unloading but for a more solid support of the motorcycle. The tailgate sees the weight until the bike is unloaded.
 

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I can appreciate your work making the supports. But what is the issue with slight downward tilt of tailgate?
My thought was they did this to compensate for for vehicle stance. That way peoples crockpots are level when plugged into the outlet.
 

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The tongue weight if using hitch carry on a Hybrid Maverick would not handle the Hawk's 400 pounds. I have a friend with a truck that he often carries bikes around 500 pounds in weight on his hitch carrier.


That Blue Hawk is pretty special and was recently a Hawk of the Month on the Hawk forum. I also have a Red 89 which I have owned about 7 years. It has a rare Kossman front wheel, Hord built front forks, jet kit, pods, penske rear shock. Really fun in the mountains.
My Mav is a EB with the 4k tow. That tells me a tongue weight of 400 lbs , I figure on loading it with a dry tank to help. We'll see, this is all just in my head at the moment.

My Hawk is also blue and is special to me. Rescued it from a storage sale, key but no title. Got the title for it when I lived in Michigan. Its a paperwork mess with surety bonds and inspections but I got it done. Enjoyed it for a while but had too many bikes and sold it to a friend. Fast forward to a couple months ago, my friend decided she wanted a Rebel 500 and said she would be selling the Hawk...I told her I'd buy it, no questions, just name your price...got it back! Needed a little love but its so good and my current main ride. Just bought some Hepco & Becker pannier racks and Racetech cartridge emulators for it and its on The List to fix up. Fiance's Vstrom is currently on the lift getting new chain, sprockets, brakes and clutch and next is the Hawk
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