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Nope....while they sound interesting I think Biden is full of crap. The USA is not anywhere near ready for everyone to have an EV vehicle. The power grid couldn't handle the demand. In addition, I'd have to upgrade the electric service coming into my house in order to put a charging station as well as the electric panel. God only knows how much that would cost at today's crazy prices, just to charge it. Plus like others have posted the range EV's are getting are nowhere near adequate for travel. They may be great for local commutes to work and to go to the store, but traveling on vacation or sightseeing, NOPE. In my opinion they won't be ready until they have a range of 500 miles or more.
I acknowledge your concerns. If you travel a lot, or have a long commute, an EV may not work for you. But those are very specific issues that (according to many articles I've read over the last few years) that do not pertain to the vast majority of individuals.

While I am sure it depends on where you live, I was able to have a 240V outlet installed for about $700, plus the actual charger at $480. I am lucky enough to receive my electricity from a coop, which keeps my prices low. Neighbors just a mile north of my place have to get their power from a for-profit corporation. They pay a good 30% more for the same electricity.

I decided to go electric BECAUSE my electricity is so affordable (~$0.08 / kWh). I travel within a 80 mile radius around my home 95% of the time. In over a year of ownership I've only driven further than 200 miles on a single trip three times. Those trips took some planning, which is not for everyone.

Lastly, if you so desire, feel free to call me God.

It is but a quick calculation to determine how much it costs to charge an electric vehicle.

$ = A*B

Information needed for this calculation:
A (cost per kWh)
B (number of kWh charged)

For example, my car (Kia Niro EV) has a 64.8 kWh battery. IF it was at 0 (not likely, but let's pretend) it would cost $5.184 to charge it to 100%.

64.8 * 0.08 = 5.184
(My electric rate is actually less than $0.08 / kWh, but I rounded up due to monthly meter fees).

If you want to know how much it costs to drive a specific distance:

$ = (D/M) * A

D (number of miles driven)
M (miles per kWh) - your EV would more than likely have a display that provides this information. Most EVs achieve between 3.5 and 4 miles / kWh. Your mileage may vary.
A (cost per kWh)

So let's go on a 500 mile trip, which for me would take me to the beach and back. So let's make that a weekend get-away. Obviously I won't be able to charge at home, and public chargers are significantly more expensive (~$0.30 / kWh). But at my destination I will ensure that I stay at a hotel that has a level 2 charger, which will allow me to charge overnight at reasonable rates (or for free, still a perk at many hotels).

First calculation: How many kWh will I need for this trip?
500 / 3.5 = 142.857 kWh (actual consumption depends on driving style, weather, traffic, and elevation changes, but my average m/kWh is usually better than 3.5)

Second calculation: How much will this cost?
142.857 kWh * $0.30 = $42.857 (IF it was 100% charged at public level 3 chargers)
((142.857 - 52) * $0.30) = $27.257 (assuming I can charge from 20% to 100% at hotel for free)

I hope this suffices to show you that you may have been lied to / fooled by those who have an interest in keeping you attached to the fossil fuel tit...

We can compare this to your car, but

Wait!!! What???

@SgtLip has been banned and will not see my well-thought out and properly researched and calculated response????? Curse you moderators!!!!!

No, I don't curse you, please don't ban me, too!!!
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Nope, I know people that had evs that loved them…until winter in Ohio. I want to drive the 1300 miles between ohio and Fort Myers without waiting for a recharge or four. IMO the hybrid is the best of both worlds. We will stick with the Maverick hybrid.
 

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The best EVs are going to be ground up efforts, not repowering an ICE design.

If there was a ground up EV Maverick, then Yeah, I’d be interested.

however, I’m unusual.

I can charge at home
I can afford multiple vehicles so the EV would be for errands and local travel.
I have a big truck for towing

Must people don’t have all these and that’s where we’re going to see EV adoption falter after the early adopters are gone.

I’m also not going to pay a fortune. All the EV math we do is fine, but if the EV
price to play is north of 40k, then I’m out and that’s probably the the dealbreaker. Ford can’t deliver an EV at 40 and make any money. They are years away from that level of efficiency.
 

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The best fit for my driving habits is a plug-in hybrid. I assume it would be quite a bit cheaper than an EV. So, it would be a win-win for me to trade in my hybrid Mav for a PHEV.
 

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I acknowledge your concerns. If you travel a lot, or have a long commute, an EV may not work for you. But those are very specific issues that (according to many articles I've read over the last few years) that do not pertain to the vast majority of individuals.

While I am sure it depends on where you live, I was able to have a 240V outlet installed for about $700, plus the actual charger at $480. I am lucky enough to receive my electricity from a coop, which keeps my prices low. Neighbors just a mile north of my place have to get their power from a for-profit corporation. They pay a good 30% more for the same electricity.

I decided to go electric BECAUSE my electricity is so affordable (~$0.08 / kWh). I travel within a 80 mile radius around my home 95% of the time. In over a year of ownership I've only driven further than 200 miles on a single trip three times. Those trips took some planning, which is not for everyone.

Lastly, if you so desire, feel free to call me God.

It is but a quick calculation to determine how much it costs to charge an electric vehicle.

$ = A*B

Information needed for this calculation:
A (cost per kWh)
B (number of kWh charged)

For example, my car (Kia Niro EV) has a 64.8 kWh battery. IF it was at 0 (not likely, but let's pretend) it would cost $5.184 to charge it to 100%.

64.8 * 0.08 = 5.184
(My electric rate is actually less than $0.08 / kWh, but I rounded up due to monthly meter fees).

If you want to know how much it costs to drive a specific distance:

$ = (D/M) * A

D (number of miles driven)
M (miles per kWh) - your EV would more than likely have a display that provides this information. Most EVs achieve between 3.5 and 4 miles / kWh. Your mileage may vary.
A (cost per kWh)

So let's go on a 500 mile trip, which for me would take me to the beach and back. So let's make that a weekend get-away. Obviously I won't be able to charge at home, and public chargers are significantly more expensive (~$0.30 / kWh). But at my destination I will ensure that I stay at a hotel that has a level 2 charger, which will allow me to charge overnight at reasonable rates (or for free, still a perk at many hotels).

First calculation: How many kWh will I need for this trip?
500 / 3.5 = 142.857 kWh (actual consumption depends on driving style, weather, traffic, and elevation changes, but my average m/kWh is usually better than 3.5)

Second calculation: How much will this cost?
142.857 kWh * $0.30 = $42.857 (IF it was 100% charged at public level 3 chargers)
((142.857 - 52) * $0.30) = $27.257 (assuming I can charge from 20% to 100% at hotel for free)

I hope this suffices to show you that you may have been lied to / fooled by those who have an interest in keeping you attached to the fossil fuel tit...

We can compare this to your car, but

Wait!!! What???

@SgtLip has been banned and will not see my well-thought out and properly researched and calculated response????? Curse you moderators!!!!!

No, I don't curse you, please don't ban me, too!!!
Do the math for when 95% of drivers have EVs. When electricity will be in short supply and demand will jack the prices. When the supply won't be able to keep up because of government shortsightedness wasting cash and resources on pet projects. You can generate your own power though.
 
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Do the math for when 95% of drivers have EVs. When electricity will be in short supply and demand will jack the prices. When the supply won't be able to keep up because of government shortsightedness wasting cash and resources on pet projects. You can generate your own power though.
Why do all nay-sayers think that we won't improve on the grid and grid management is beyond me.

Do you know where people used to buy their gasoline for their cars? For some, it was at the pharmacy. The first gas stations weren't opened in the US until the late 1910s.

https://www.quora.com/Before-there-...wners-of-early-motors-vehicles-get-their-fuel

Were these folks worried about the lack of gas stations? No, because they bought a car after a source of fuel was regularly available. We already have electricity widely available.

When we no longer have to spend gas to transport gas to a gas station, and you don't have to spend gas to go to the gas station to fill up your car, we will have more gas (or another fossil fuel product) availabe to make electricty.

SMDH

Think before you post....

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-electric-vehicles-wont-break-the-grid/

https://www.nrdc.org/bio/max-baumhefner/how-electric-cars-and-trucks-improve-grid-reliability

https://www.businessinsider.com/electric-car-wont-overload-electrical-grid-california-evs-2022-10

https://www.wired.com/story/electric-vehicles-could-rescue-the-us-power-grid/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesm...-just-need-proper-management/?sh=7e9dad157862
 

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Why do all nay-sayers think that we won't improve on the grid and grid management is beyond me.

Do you know where people used to buy their gasoline for their cars? For some, it was at the pharmacy. The first gas stations weren't opened in the US until the late 1910s.

https://www.quora.com/Before-there-...wners-of-early-motors-vehicles-get-their-fuel

Were these folks worried about the lack of gas stations? No, because they bought a car after a source of fuel was regularly available. We already have electricity widely available.

When we no longer have to spend gas to transport gas to a gas station, and you don't have to spend gas to go to the gas station to fill up your car, we will have more gas (or another fossil fuel product) availabe to make electricty.

SMDH

Think before you post....

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-electric-vehicles-wont-break-the-grid/

https://www.nrdc.org/bio/max-baumhefner/how-electric-cars-and-trucks-improve-grid-reliability

https://www.businessinsider.com/electric-car-wont-overload-electrical-grid-california-evs-2022-10

https://www.wired.com/story/electric-vehicles-could-rescue-the-us-power-grid/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesm...-just-need-proper-management/?sh=7e9dad157862
The industry uses Diesel to transport gas.
Think before you post…..
 

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The industry uses Diesel to transport gas.
Think before you post…..
Pardon my failure to list all types of liquid fossil fuels and instead just call them all "gas". I should've known that as soon as I let some snark fly it's going to come back to haunt me.
 

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When we no longer have to spend gas to transport gas to a gas station, and you don't have to spend gas to go to the gas station to fill up your car, we will have more gas (or another fossil fuel product) availabe to make electricty.

SMDH

Think before you post....
Except the elites want to ELIMINATE fossil fuels, not reallocate them.

Maybe follow your own advice? (& spell check is handy too... ;) )
 

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I despise EV, BUT if anybody can buy electricity for $.08 per KwH and find an electrician these days who would install a 50A branch circuit to a garage for a charger for a measly $700.00 they would be a fool not to have an EV.

That electrician must get a great deal on 6/3 Rmex (spell check insists I type Rolex)

Anyway, my thoughts on the subject. :) (y)
 
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I'm getting the Lariat hybrid. I'd drop it like a hot rock for a Maverick Lariat EV.

Update... Living with a Maverick Hybrid for last 4 months... Completely charmed and smitten by the Maverick hybrid. At this point I would go with a PHEV vs an EV. If Ford offers a PHEV in the future, with a minimum of 50 miles on battery, we will be a two Maverick family.

Update: Ordered a 2023 Cyber Orange Hybrid Lariat Lux Maverick, 9/20/22. So hopefully at some point in 2023 we will be a two Maverick family. If in 2024 Ford does a PHEV Maverick we will order one and sell/trade in the 2022 Maverick.
No way no how. Would I buy a fully electric vehicle. The cart is running faster than the horses are. The bugs have not been worked out of the technology. Insufficient charging stations, all charging stations are not reliable no one connection fits all yet. Etc.
What happens if you are somewhere in the Rocky Mountains and you you run out of battery power. Will AAA have some method to give you a charge to get you to the next available charge station?
Just keep on building the hybrid.
 

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EVs would be great if:
  • The range was as much as the Hybrid Maverick.
  • Everyone had a garage or other dry place to charge a vehicle.
  • Everyone had a dedicated parking space with their own charger.
  • Nobody had to park on the street.

For many people, EVs make perfect sense.
For many more, they never will.
 

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No way no how. Would I buy a fully electric vehicle. The cart is running faster than the horses are. The bugs have not been worked out of the technology. Insufficient charging stations, all charging stations are not reliable no one connection fits all yet. Etc.
What happens if you are somewhere in the Rocky Mountains and you you run out of battery power. Will AAA have some method to give you a charge to get you to the next available charge station?
Just keep on building the hybrid.
Not only that but the USA doesn't have enough electrical capacity to power a significant percentage of EVs. The cost of power would go waaaaay up.
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