Auto Start/Stop Delete (Disable) using FORscan!! Works and confirmed! [ADMIN WARNING: NO TROLLING]

[Montevilla]

What money is being saved? (serious question)

None in terms of gas consumption for sure.
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[wb5oxq]

Thanks to our friend @Golfsnob we now have a confirmed, working Auto Start/Stop Delete using just Forscan!

This is the same technique used on the Ford Bronco that was previously mentioned in other threads AND on the Bronco forums. @Golfsnob has both a Bronco and a Maverick and used the technique successfully on both.

I have also used this Forscan technique on my 2023 EB and can happily report it works like a charm. No lights or indicator. Just disabled.

Here's the technique from @Golfsnob:

"You have to change the values in the "AS Built" in the PSCM module address 730-03-01. There are 3 sets of values. In the 3rd set of values change the first two digits from 01 (enabled) to 00 (disabled). Then click write all and follow the key off/on instructions. That's it."

Enjoy! And many thanks to @Golfsnob for saving us all that money

Can this change things like audio settings, time before lane centering demands hands on wheel?

 

[Gregk]

My experience is this is a complete disable. You can push the button, the nag screen will say its either on or off, but it does not do anything. This fox seems to completely disable ass

 

[TrailMaster]

What money is being saved? (serious question)

It could save the cost of a starter needing premature replacement. And, obviously, for those of us who were considering purchasing an Auto Start/Stop Eliminator it'll save us that unnecessary expense.

 

[raybollywood]

So I gather it’s just an annoyance? Hitting the off switch when you start the rig every time is just a pita?

Yes. One less frivolous thing to do.
And a certain satisfaction in having YOUR vehicle the way you want it.

I've never sat in a car and said to myself 'gosh, i am really glad this thing is auto stopping and starting. I do not know what i'm going to do with all the money saved.'

 

[Barracuda340]

Sounds like this permanently turns out off.

What seceral people want is it to default to off, but be able to turn it on if desired.

That would be me. That's why I bought the aftermarket plug in work around

 

[Decayed]

Yes. One less frivolous thing to do.
And a certain satisfaction in having YOUR vehicle the way you want it.

I've never sat in a car and said to myself 'gosh, i am really glad this thing is auto stopping and starting. I do not know what i'm going to do with all the money saved.'

Agreed. Though probably they did it to satisfy EPA requirements or something like that. Otherwise there's no real reason to make it "mandatory on".

Most of the time I don't notice the engine cuts off, but sometimes it cuts off just as you're about to hit the gas for a merge and it's actually kind of dangerous because of the lag time to when you actually get some power.

It would be nice to have more control over it than always off or always on.

 

[DTF-Garage]

Of course now this comes out after I finally broke down and bought a module to keep the AS/S off damnit

 

[grumpyunk]

Agreed. Though probably they did it to satisfy EPA requirements or something like that. Otherwise there's no real reason to make it "mandatory on".

Most of the time I don't notice the engine cuts off, but sometimes it cuts off just as you're about to hit the gas for a merge and it's actually kind of dangerous because of the lag time to when you actually get some power.

It would be nice to have more control over it than always off or always on.

While waiting, if you don't want to have the delay, wiggle the steering wheel back and forth a bit. That will disable AutoSS or at least delay its engaging while you are paused. Doing that wiggle will also make the engine start if you find the need while stopped.

 

[Rivers90]

Ok. Time to learn forscan.

Has anyone tried this on a Tremor ? The stop start button is on the dash not in the center. I don't think this would change anything but it might.

 

[Ford Truck Guy]

It costs about $200 for the device that turns off a/s/s that plugs into the odb2 port.

It's actually half as much as you said.

 

[Decayed]

While waiting, if you don't want to have the delay, wiggle the steering wheel back and forth a bit. That will disable AutoSS or at least delay its engaging while you are paused. Doing that wiggle will also make the engine start if you find the need while stopped.

My go to method has been to very slightly ease up on brake pedal pressure. As soon as it detects your foot coming off the brake it restarts the engine and will not shut off again for that stop. Mav never moves.

I do it almost unconsciously at this point, but the point is I want complete control over it and not have to do anything once I'm in the car. Once when I was trying to merge into heavy traffic the engine bogged down on me once after moving the truck just far enough to be in traffic. The engine had auto stopped just before I floored it. If it stalled I'd have been in an accident.

 

[GA Hot Pepper]

It could save the cost of a starter needing premature replacement. And, obviously, for those of us who were considering purchasing an Auto Start/Stop Eliminator it'll save us that unnecessary expense.

Not true. The starter is not your normal starter. It is highly modified and built to higher standards for this use. The battery is an AGM for this purpose, with more cranking amps and longer life.

 

[HolyCarp]

Just tried it on my 2023 and couldn't get it to work. My 3rd set of values are 013B by default. I changed the first two in that set to 00 and the last two automatically changed to 3A. Cycled to off and back on after the write and Auto Start Stop was still on by default when I started the truck. Tried 3 times with the same results. I haven't installed the most current Ford update that's available yet though.

 

[TrailMaster]

Not true. The starter is not your normal starter. It is highly modified and built to higher standards for this use. The battery is an AGM for this purpose, with more cranking amps and longer life.

Well that's good to hear. Once I disable the auto start/stop, my beefy starter and battery should last an extra long time!

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