$100k Truck vs. $25k Truck

[Scott Asheville]

This thread reminds me of a bunch of medieval peasants talking about how much smarter they are to live in mud huts than a palace.

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[athertonbt]

Saw one in town the other day and definitely catches the eye, good or bad. As cheap as electricity is here in East TN, I'm sure boomers who love gadgets will find many ways to explain this purchase to their wives.

 

[TheSEARCH]

I snapped a photo of one about two weeks ago at local cabelas parking lot. I joke oh know hood up broke already. Of course that is the trunk area. plus he had that side hatch open too by rear wheel. Lots of storage space.

 

[mrbill]

Look what just parked next to me. A Rivian.

Almost exactly the same size as the Maverick.

Not quite the same price.

He did have suspension set to "low" but body height and bed height was identical to a stock Maverick. The crew cab was just a couple inches longer. Front bumpers and windshields were even in these photos.
He can go 340 miles.
I can go 700 miles.

I have only seen two running around our town, I figured I could have 4 xlt hybrid mavericks for one of those !! of course my driveway ,after a yaer is still no maverick, was reordered 9/15/22 so we shall see

 

[paneubert]

Saw one (along with a bunch of other high end vehicles) on a parked car carrier in a costco parking lot earlier this week. Transport driver must have needed some groceries. Haha.

 

[rlhdweman]

This thread reminds me of a bunch of medieval peasants talking about how much smarter they are to live in mud huts than a palace.

4 wheels, a steering wheel & a seat for 25K OR
4 wheels, a steering wheel & a seat for 100K.........hhhhmmmmmmmmm, I think we know who the smarter ones are.

 

[bbhaag]

This thread is so stupid. These two vehicles aren't even remotely comparable to each other.

 

[HotJombalya]

This thread is so stupid. These two vehicles aren't even remotely comparable to each other.

They’re both trucks. They’re comparable.

Also I can’t get over the Rivian’s face. Fugly.

 

[dalola]

Not sure about "almost exactly the same size"..... Close, maybe. The Riv is longer, wider, taller, and MUCH heavier. Closer to a Ridgeline in scale, and a Super Duty in mass.

Technically & dynamically, it's a far superior vehicle. One could certainly argue the value factor belongs to the Mav. And subjective looks as well.

If someone was doling out free trucks, sure, I'd take the Riv. But for my money, easy Mav win.

Still cool to see them side by side.

 

[bbhaag]

They’re both trucks. They’re comparable.

Also I can’t get over the Rivian’s face. Fugly.

Let's compare "truck stuff" then.
We should start with standard towing capability because that's a truck thing. The Maverick has a standard 2,000 pound towing capacity and the Rivians is 11,000.

Then we can move on to standard torque because that's a truck thing to. The Maverick comes standard with 155 ft. pounds and the Rivians is 908 ft. pounds.

What is another good truck thing to compare? How about payload capacity? The Maverick has a standard 1500 pound payload and the Rivians is 1760.

Next we can move on to another great truck thing to compare which is the 4 wheel drive system. The Maverick does not come standard with 4wd the Rivian has 4wd standard.

Horse power numbers are another great truck thing to compare. The Maverick comes standard with 191hp and the Rivian has 835hp standard.

I can keep going if you want but most of these numbers make these two vehicles non comparable.

 

[JimParker256]

Let's compare "truck stuff" then.

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I can keep going if you want but most of these numbers make these two vehicles non comparable.

I don't disagree with the rest of your analysis, but one thing about the Rivian that doesn't equate to "real truck" performance to me is the real-world towing range with that max load. I've seen a couple of side-by-side comparison tests that showed it can only go about 100-125 miles towing a heavy load before you have to stop to recharge the batteries.

The Maverick's max towing capacity is admittedly only a fraction of the Rivian's, but it can tow that 4,000 lb load for around 350 miles between stops.

But nobody is buying a Maverick expecting to tow heavy loads. And I suspect that very few people are buying Rivian's for that purpose, either. More power to them, I say... Glad there are different trucks for different purposes. (My Silverado HD 2500 diesel felt like it could pull a freight train up a cliff, and still get 17 mpg while doing so... But it was also a behemoth that was very difficult to drive in city traffic, where I was constantly in fear of squashing one of those little Fiat 500s that barely came up to the hood of the truck...)

 

[bbhaag]

First of all lets compare standard towing capacities not optional towing capacities. Then lets put an 11,000 pound load behind a Maverick and see what the range is on the Maverick. Then lets put a 2,000 pound load behind a Rivian and see what the range is.

I'm gonna put my money on the Rivian but lets keep talking "truck stuff" since they are both trucks and are their fore comparable.

The Maverick uses a unibody style "frame" construction while the Rivian has a body on frame construction.

The Maverick comes standard with a 54" box and the Rivian comes standard with a 60" box.

Lets move onto the chassis for more truck stuff. The Maverick uses a simple yet effective strut and torsion beam suspension standard and the Rivian uses a strut and mutli link suspension standard on all models.

Another good measure of a truck is it's breaking ability. The Maverick comes standard with 12.8" vented front disk breaks and 11.9" non-vented rear disc breaks. This brings a 3700 pound Maverick from 70-0 in 158 ft.
The Rivian comes standard with 13.5" vented front disk breaks and 12.9" vented rear disk breaks. This brings a 7100 pound Rivian from 70-0 in 177 ft.

I can keep going if you want but most of these numbers make these two vehicles non comparable. Or better yet lets start talking non truck stuff like cargo capacity and performance.

 

[Pickles]

Look what just parked next to me. A Rivian.

Almost exactly the same size as the Maverick.

Not quite the same price.

He did have suspension set to "low" but body height and bed height was identical to a stock Maverick. The crew cab was just a couple inches longer. Front bumpers and windshields were even in these photos.
He can go 340 miles.
I can go 700 miles.

Whaaaat you found a rivian? Crazy. I had no idea they were that small. Thanks for the photos

 

[BuddyS]

This thread is so stupid. These two vehicles aren't even remotely comparable to each other.

Exactly. It's like comparing a Corolla to an S-Class Mercedes. They're both sedans, but built for completely different buyers, markets, reasons, performance goals, etc.

 

[Saul T Knutz]

Soooo...why does this thread have the red exclamation point next to it is all I wanna know...and anybody can buy a Riv and write it off as a business expense if you know how, talk to a CPA to learn more...

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