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For me, while I want an ST, if it’s just an appearance package then I will pass, 2.3 at least and then we will be in business. Most STs had real engine and performance improvements, later on they realized some people will buy them just for the appearance and apparently went ahead and made...

Needless to say an ST version is what I’m waiting on myself. 2.3 will fit right in no problem as this vehicle platform has this engine in it already in a few vehicles. Here’s hoping, if so I’ll finally Try and get one on order!

Don't forget to list these crazy fees on www.markups.org, easy way to see who is doing what on markups and one more way to spread the word. 20k is absolutely crazy, what a weird time to need to buy a vehicle.

Well, for me I’m still on the sidelines waiting to eventually place an order. Good news is I will need one in two years so maybe an ST will be a reality by then. Figure I wait a year and place an order then for pickup the year after that. Come on ST model! I will either get an ST and or a...