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It seems like there's a little more variability than I thought. The 17mm ball, which is what the refinedtruck guys made, seems to be the most standard size now. Some of my older cheapie holders seemed to be smaller like maybe 12mm or something. But I've been able to make the 17mm work by...

That's right. You kind of have to disassemble a cheap regular phone holder to see the ball I'm looking for. It's typically inside the pivot point of a vent-clip holder or something. That sticking out from a FITS piece would be ideal.

Thanks. Unfortunately, theirs is a bit bigger and not quite the standard phone mount size.

Many phone holders -- whether they clip on the vent or stick on the dash or whatever -- are basically on a pivot that is a ball mount. I've been able to frankenstein together different mounting points and holders after realizing that ball mount seems to be standard-sized. Is any body up for...